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From: "Todd A. Farmerie" <>
Subject: Re: Eleanor of Aquitaine and Henry II
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 23:07:20 -0600
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David Webb wrote:
> I wonder if these table will come out correctly. They are in HTML.

They did not. USENET (soc.gen.medieval) and mailing lists
(GEN-MEDIEVAL) are, by there nature, plain text media, and as
such will not convey HTML correctly.


> Seventh cousins twice removed
>
>
> Herbert I Vermandois
>
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> Adela Herbert II Vermandois
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> Conrad I Alsace Ledgard
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> Herbert Kinziggau Emma Blois
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> Ermentrude William III Aquitaine

This descent is poorly documented. That Heribert of Kinzigau
descends from Heribert of Vermandois is speculation, and the
younger was named for the elder. That the daughter of Heribert
involved was named Adela is further speculation. The Conradins
have undergone significant revisions by recent authors, and there
is no consensus.


> Ninth cousins once removed
>
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> Louis I France
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> Adelaide Gisela
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> Robert I France Berengar I Italy
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> Hugh the Great France Gisela


Adele, mother of Robert I, is by ancient tradition daughter of
Louis, but this is based on late sources, and is poorly supported
(it seems likely to me that it is a 'legitimist' invention,
intended to justify Robert being king.


> Eleventh cousins once removed
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> Guelph Bavaria
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> Conrad I Auxerre Judith
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> Guelph I Argengau Gisela
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> Adelaide Berengar I Italy
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> Ermentrud Gisela
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> Kunegunde Berengar II Italy
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> Siegfried Moselgau Adalbert Italy
>

The 'best' reconstruction of the parentage of Adelaide, wife of
Louis II (mother of Ermentrude and Charles) makes her daughter of
Count Palatine Adalhard.


taf

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