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From: "Richard Smith" <>
Subject: Re: Emma, the wife of Guy IV de Laval
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:30:54 -0600
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Don,

We all must say "oops" on occasion. I was not trying to catch anybody. I
had thought that I had missed something. It is strange, however, that the
web site would use software which is unable to recognize letters of the
French alphabet.

Best wishes,

Richard Smith

----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Stone" <>
To: <>
Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 1:06 PM
Subject: Re: Emma, the wife of Guy IV de Laval


> Richard Smith wrote:
>
> > Don,
> >
> > The following is the relevant portion of Douglas' original post:
> >
> > "In footnotes 64 and 69, Vincent shows that a 17th Century genealogy of
> > Chauvigny family (Bibliotheque Nationale Ms. Franqais 16789 f.37)
> > incorrectly alleges that Raoul de Déols (died 1176), seigneur of
Chateauroux
> > in Barry, married a sister of King Henry II."
> >
> > Where is the "[sic!]" ?
> >
> > Richard Smith
>
> Oops. Thanks, Richard, for catching my screwup in the last sentence of my
> comments below. (It's embarrasing to have been inaccurate in a post
relating
> to accuracy in off-topic posts.)
>
> But my first two sentences are still valid:
> >>Doug was not the one who rendered "ç" as "q". It was perhaps Nicholas
> >>Vincent, the author of the Chateauroux article, but more likely some
OCR
> >>software used to scan the article for the De Re Militari website.
>
> -- Don Stone
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Don Stone" <>
> > To: <>
> > Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 11:19 AM
> > Subject: Re: Emma, the wife of Guy IV de Laval
> >
> >
> >
> >>Peter Stewart wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> (Douglas Richardson) wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Dear Chris and Rosie:
> >>>>
> >>>>Thank you both for your interesting posts.
> >>>>
> >>>>Geoffrey Plantagenet's illegitimate daughter, Aldewide, wife of Ralph,
> >>>>junior Prince of Bourg-Deols, was debunked in a recent article by
> >>>>Nicholas Vincent entitled ?William Marshal, King Henry II and the
> >>>>Honour of Chateauroux,? published in Archives: Journal of the British
> >>>>Record Assoc. 25 (2000). In footnotes 64 and 69, Vincent shows that a
> >>>>17th Century genealogy of Chauvigny family (Bibliotheque Nationale Ms.
> >>>>Franqais [sic!] 16789 f.37) incorrectly alleges that Raoul de Déols
> >
> > (died
> >
> >>>>1176), seigneur of Chateauroux in Barry, married a sister of King
> >>>>Henry II.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Gracious me - and this person tells us he can make sense of the French
> >>>language!
> >>>
> >>>Now we plainly see that he doesn't even recognise the cedilla, and
> >>>renders "ç" as "q". Or perhaps he will say that Google did it....
> >>
> >>Peter,
> >>
> >>Doug was not the one who rendered "ç" as "q". It was perhaps Nicholas
> >>Vincent, the author of the Chateauroux article, but more likely some OCR
> >>software used to scan the article for the De Re Militari website.
Doug's
> >>"[sic!]" shows that he recognized the blunder.
> >>
> >> - Don Stone
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>


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