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Subject: re: coats of arms
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 11:15:08 EST
I sent this directly to Tim by mistake, it have gone to gen-medieval.
"Subj: Re: coats of arms
Date: 12/12/2003 10:21:30 AM Eastern Standard Time
From: <A HREF="mailto:CMcNett">CMcNett</A>
To: <A HREF="mailto:"></A>
Tim,
Sorry to be confusing, I was using "my" in the sense that it was the coat of
arms "I" was dealing with. I am an anthropologist now doing my own
genealogy, with some help from gen-medieval, and I look at coats of arms as cultural
symbols of power and structure. The wavy saltire blazon (and I am just
getting into coats of arms) was presented to me as being from MacNaughton. With
the help of gen-medieval, I was able to determine that it was the coat of arms
of McFarland of Argyll removing to Ireland in the early 1600's. But there
are two other sources who say that the SAME wavy saltire (perhaps with a
crescent) is the coat of arms of MacNaughten (or McCracken) of Ireland (I have heard
of Antrim). I am trying to find out how this change took place, how the power
and structure of the time was changed there from McFarland to MacNaughten.
I am a male descendant through McNitt and McNaught of Kilquhanity (sable, an
inescutcheon chequy, argent and azure, between three lions' heads, erased, of
thesecond, langued gules). The last armiger died in the 1740's in New York,
no ancestor of mine. I have a program to do the blazons and will put McNaught
and many others into FTW, just as Threlfall did in his book on Bradbury. I
have no desire to have a coat of arms -- I don't have the power and structure
for it to mean much. I do like the crest of MacNaughton (tower gules with
belt and motto "I Hope in God" ) which I have on the wall, McNitt being a sept
of MacNaughton.
I am happy to have had the assistance of several of you yesterday in getting
as far as I did in my analysis. Does anyone have a good reference for a book
on the coat of arms for Ireland????
Charlie McNett"
In a message dated 12/11/2003 11:09:03 PM Eastern Standard Time,
writes:
> In message of 12 Dec, wrote:
>
> >Hi,
> >Well, I discovered that my coat of arms,
>
> How do you know it is your coat of arms? Have you done the genealogy
> to trace your descent from an armiger?
>
>
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