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From: "~Ford~" <>
Subject: Fw: Reasons why some people are "interesting"
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 07:22:07 -0600


----- Original Message -----
From: "~Ford~" <>
To: <>
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 6:33 AM
Subject: Re: Reasons why some people are "interesting"


>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Peter Stewart" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 4:19 AM
> Subject: Re: Reasons why some people are "interesting"
>
>
> > ~Ford~ wrote:
> >
> > > Wills is not William, Prince of Wales; but he IS Prince William of
> Wales,
> > > just as his brother is Prince Henry of Wales, and his cousins are
Prince
> > > Michael of Kent, and Princesses Beatrix and Eugenie of York. By the
> way,
> > > they are all HRH. If HM lives long enough, (and well she may), Wills'
> > > kinder would be Lady or Lord X of Wales - except that I believe that
the
> > > title of Prince(ss), with the style of HRH would be extended in the
> direct,
> > > senior line. The same applies to Harry's children, until Charles
> becomes
> > > king, should that come to pass. The royalty of station adheres for
two
> > > generations. Of course when Harry is created Duke of Mercia, (or
> whatever),
> > > his children would use 'of Mercia', (or whatever), instead of 'of
> Wales'.
> > > For further elucidation, Wills will not become Prince of Wales until
> > > invested as such; he will become Duke of Cornwall, Lord of the Isles,
> and
> > > Lord Steward of Scotland, though, on the eventual demise of his
> grand-mere.
> > > As an aside, when Wills was on the swim-team, he wore speedoes that
> across
> > > the front were monogrammed 'WOW', for William of Wales. I've not seen
> > > pictures, so can not say if it could have had an extra meaning.
> >
> > To be accurate (and if sufficiently capacious) the Speedos should have
> > read "WOGBNI" - schoolboy jokes aside, he is a prince of Great Britain
> > and Northern Ireland,
>
>
> Actually, of 'The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland',
> commonly AND officially shortened to 'The United Kingdom'.
>
>
> > and only called "of Wales" as a sop to press &
> > public that would insist on this familiar form no matter what was or
> > wasn't correct.
> >
>
>
> Or perhaps those who insist on _Correct Form_. See the book of that
title,
> compiled and edited by the late Patrick Montague-Smith, and published
(1970)
> by Debrett's.



p. 16.



> The online version of same has already been cited in an
> earlier post.
>
>
> > The same is true of the other princes & princesses mentioned above.
> >
> > Queen Victoria's last surviving granddaughter, Princess Alice, countess
> > of Athlone, used to loathe this vulgar downgrading of princely status
> > from national to local - having been miscalled, as she felt,
>
>
> Operative words here: 'as she felt'? One might also note that things
have
> changed since the Victorian and Edwardian eras, as well as the fact that
the
> Victorian brood were noted for eccentricities in many areas, including
form
> & style.
>
>
> >"Princess
> > Alice of Albany" from childhhood.
> >
> > Peter Stewart
> >
>

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