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Subject: Re: Possible identity of Eve wife of Nicholas Tregoz and Robert de Valoines
Date: 22 Feb 2004 08:54:29 -0800
(Douglas Richardson) wrote in message news:<>...
> Dear Gordon, Jay, etc. ~
> To further the interest in finding the identity of Eve (______)
> (Tregoz) de Valoines (died 1292), it would probably help if we had a
> list of the colonial immigrants who have Eve de Valoines in their
> ancestry. As shown below, my files indicate a whopping 50-plus
> colonial immigrants are descended from this woman.
> Be sure to check the list to see if your colonial ancestor is
> Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah
See Douglas does play nice if you don't hurl invectives at him and
spew vitriol as if he had committed genocide. He provides some
interesting topics of discussion and some helpful information.
Sometimes he does toss out teasers or is slow to provide lines of
evidence-perhaps to promote his book, however nothing he has done
warrants the volumes of nastiness and personal attacks cast on him by
certain parties, including individuals who pride themselves on being
"non-judgemental". Critques of methodology, lines of evidence, etc.
are perfectly legitimate, but in no means warant such recriminations.
Sometimes I have been frustrated by Douglas answers, but he has on
many occassions been helpful to me and many other individuals. This
should count for something!!!! It does with me. This isn't the
arab-israeli crisis, it is genealogy. Nobody dies if someone makes an
error, the folks we study are already dead. The interest in getting
the best information we can is a noble pursuit, so let us keep it that
[See note below]
> 2. Henry, Thomas & William Batte.
[The line to these fellows I see as the following, if anyone knows of
alternative lines I would be interested.]
2. Cecily de Valoines
3. Robert de Ufford
4. Cecily de Ufford
5. Robert 4th Baron Willoughby
6. William 5th Baron Willoughby
7. Margery Willoughby
8. Lora Fitz Hugh=Sir John Conbstable
9. Joan Constable=Sir William Mallory
10. Sir John Mallory=Margaret Thwyates
11. Sir William Mallory=Jane Norton
12. Sir William Mallory= Ursala Gale
13. Rev. Thomas Mallory=Elizabeth Vaughan
14. Katherine "Martha" Mallory= Captain John Batte
15: Gen of: Henry Batte, Thomas and William Batte
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