GEN-MEDIEVAL-L Archives

Archiver > GEN-MEDIEVAL > 2004-07 > 1090425622


From: (Jared Linn Olar)
Subject: Re: Jesus
Date: 21 Jul 2004 09:00:22 -0700
References: <1e2.255590ce.2e26e482@aol.com> <VHQJc.3624$K53.1844@news-server.bigpond.net.au> <ac1a3786.0407161102.6a41873c@posting.google.com> <DFZJc.3829$K53.2108@news-server.bigpond.net.au> <ac1a3786.0407190859.1489ab63@posting.google.com> <vmYKc.8132$K53.3063@news-server.bigpond.net.au> <ac1a3786.0407191934.95a102d@posting.google.com> <5E3Lc.8613$K53.4844@news-server.bigpond.net.au> <ac1a3786.0407200834.43970d1a@posting.google.com> <XfhLc.9442$K53.7703@news-server.bigpond.net.au>


Peter Stewart <> wrote in message news:<XfhLc.9442$>...
> The discussion in which I engaged was entirely appropriate to SGM - a
> question had been raised about the historicity of a medieval person, and
> then this was shifted to the documentary basis for knowing of him from
> early independent sources about the revelation that he proclaimed. The
> existence of these was falsely denied - that's all there is to it, and
> it was perfectly on-topic to counter this mistake.

I don't know who denied the existence of Muhammad. I know I never
did. All I did was claim, apparently incorrectly, that there are/were
no documents written by Muslims in the 600s A.D., and correctly
pointed out that there is some doubt about Muhammad's dates and
whether or not Muhammad was his original name or rather a title that
he assumed or was granted.

> > For, instance, something I'm curious about is what kind of source material,
> > and of what quality, do we have for the traditional descent of the
> > Emirs and Sheriffs of Mecca (not to mention the modern Hashemite
> > dynasty) from al-Hassan, son of Fatima, daughter of Muhammad?
>
> The archive will probably help a bit - at least you will find works
> cited there that can be usefully consulted.

Thanks. I check them.

Jared Linn Olar


This thread: