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From: "Douglas Richardson " <>
Subject: Re: Faramus of Boulonge and Richard de Lucy
Date: 29 Jul 2005 14:01:13 -0700
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Dear Ginny ~

Thanks so much for sharing this information with us. It's good to see
people like you posting such helpful material. Keep up the good work.


Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

Website: www.royalancestry.net

"Ginny Wagner" wrote:
> p. 285 of France Calendar of Documents:
>
> "1158 Abbey "Des (Dames) Blanches" at Mortain, for Cistercian Nuns in
> the Diocese of Avranches [Original Charters formerly at
> Sous-prefecture of Mortain.][1] [fn1] Now removed to the Archives
> Nationales.
>
> AND "Charter of William, count of Mortain, Warenne, and Boulogne
> giving and granting, in alms for ever to the nuns of St. Mary of
> Mortain, the gift of his father king Stephen in lands and tenants,
> with the land of Monfautret.
>
> "Testes: Eustachius cancellarius; Balduinus de Campania; Robertus
> Pavo; Robertus filius Fulconis; magister Lucas; Faramus[4]; Fordanus
> de Sancta-villa; Stephanus frater ejus; Robertus Avenel; Engelrannus
> de Toschet; Hugo frater ejus; Guillelus de Virie; Arnoldus Pavo;
> Guillelmus frater comitis. Apud Tenerbrachium. Anno ab incarnatione
> Domini MCLVIII.
>
> "[fn4] Trans.: "Faranius." See, for him, Genealogist, XII., 145."
>
>
>
> ON page 268 of Robert Bartlett's England Under the Norman and Angevin
> Kings,:
>
> "The different kinds of recruits -- feudal and other levies, household
> troops, mercenaries -- should not be classified too emphatically into
> separate categories. William of Ypres, for example, an illegitimate
> cadet of the Flemish comital family is frequently and reasonably
> described as the leader of king Stephen's Flemish mercenaries, but
> after the king's capture in 1141, command of his household troops was
> taken by William, along with Faramus of Boulogne, nephew of the queen,
> Matilda.[76] [fn76] J. Hexham, p. 310.
>
> page 111
> "The wife of Baldwin of Boulogne, one of the leaders of the crusade,
> who died at Marasch in cilicia in October, 1097, was described by the
> chronicler Albert of Aachen as 'Baldwin's most noble wife, whom he had
> brought from the kingdom of England'; he givers her name as
> Godwera.[109][fn109] Albert of Aachen, Historia Hierosolymitana 3.27,
> Recueil des historiens des croisades, Historiens occidentaxu (5 vols.;
> Paris, 1844-95), vol. 4, p. 358; for discussion of her identity,
> William of Tyre, A history of Deeds Done beyond the Sea, tr. E.
> A.Babcock and A.C. Krey (2 vols; New York, 1943), vol. I, p. 178 n.20.
>
> p. 112: ...[King Stephen] ... gave what support he could to the
> crusading enterprise, even though he was clearly unable to leave his
> kingdom in the middle of civil war. His wife, Matilda, who also had
> family ties to crusader Jerusalem, being the niece of its first two
> rulers, Godfrey de Bouillon and king Baldwin I, was a major patroness
> of the crusading orders.
>
> Hope this helps. ;-) Ginny


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