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Subject: Re: King's Kinsfolk: Richard II's kinsman, Edmund Stafford
Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 12:42:32 EST



In a message dated 11/27/2005 9:36:33 AM Pacific Standard Time,
writes:

In addition to the sources which you have cited in your post, I show
that the Sir Nicholas de Bek's wife, Joan de Stafford, is identified as
the daughter of Sir Ralph de Stafford, 1st Earl of Stafford, in the
Visitation of Cheshire as follows:


Although the papal dispensation is a primary document, nothing else cited is.
So all we know is that they were related in the fourth degree. For a person
with no known parentage other than this dispensation's elusive clue, *that*
is not enough to determine who her parent's were. The Visitation is
worthless, discussing people several hundred years earlier, in my opinion.
Will Johnson

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