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From: "Peter Sutton" <>
Subject: RE: King's Kinsfolk: Richard II's kinsman, Edmund Stafford
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 18:55:02 -0000
In-Reply-To: <8C7C25D010F7FCB-1638-27A3@mblk-r14.sysops.aol.com>


Will

Are you referring to Jane (Joan) wife of Sir Nicholas Beke who was the
daughter of Ralph Stafford (who was himself Grandson of Ralph Earl of
Stafford) who died on 1st March 1410 and who was married to Maud Hastang
(born 2nd February 1359) sometime after 22 August 1373 who gave birth to
Jane (Joan) who married Sir Nicholas Beke and gave him 2 children before he
died in 1369, when his Mother-in-Law and their Grandmother was aged 10 years
and unmarried, or does "Living Descendents of Blood Royal" mean another
Ralph Stafford?

Peter Sutton

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [mailto:]
> Sent: 28 November 2005 18:02
> To:
> Subject: Re: King's Kinsfolk: Richard II's kinsman, Edmund Stafford
>
> And I should point out per "Living Descendents of Blood
> Royal" the Sir Ralph (not Earl or Lord) de Stafford that I
> have been stating is shown to be father to this Jane (Joan)
> has himself an IPM 3 Jul 1410.
>
> So far that text has not been introduced in this thread, but
> I would have to think that it might shed light on his
> daughter Jane (Stafford) Beke and her husband Nicholas.
>
> Will Johnson
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Sutton <>
> To:
> Sent: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 17:52:45 -0000
> Subject: RE: King's Kinsfolk: Richard II's kinsman, Edmund Stafford
>
>
> I don't think that I can usefully add anymore to my previous
> posts regarding Sir Nicholas Beke.
>
> For those who wish to pursue more fully the career of Sir
> Nicholas Beke and his family I would commend the "Collections
> for a History of Staffordshire".
> This is an ongoing series of publications containing a wealth
> of material relating to the county. The series commenced in
> 1880 and is published by the Staffordshire Record Society
> which was known as the William Salt Archaeological Society
> prior to 1936. Volume have been published on, usually, an
> yearly basis.
>
> Peter Sutton
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [mailto:]
> > Sent: 28 November 2005 16:41
> > To:
> > Subject: Re: King's Kinsfolk: Richard II's kinsman, Edmund Stafford
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 11/28/2005 8:33:29 AM Pacific Standard Time,
> > writes:
> >
> > But what we do know is that Sir Nicholas had a very close
> > relationship with Ralph Stafford, he was in his household.
> >
> >
> > How do we know this again?
> > Thanks
> > Will Johnson
> >
> >
>
>

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