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From: "CED" <>
Subject: Re: Geoffrey Plantagenet's name
Date: 7 Feb 2006 02:18:55 -0800
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W David Samuelsen wrote:
> <http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/GEN-MEDIEVAL/2006-02/1139280743>;
>
> CED,
> Geoffrey received his nickname for the sprig of broom (= genêt plant, in
> French) he wore in his hat as a badge.
>
> Hence his descendants are known as the Plantagenets, to separate from
> the rest of the Angevins. The lines continued until last of the male
> Plantagenets died out, females marrying into the Lancaster and York
> houses as well as fraticides. The last Plantagenet King was Richard II
> and his actions led to his abdication, died either by murder or
> starvation depending on whose version it was then, and succeeded by
> Henry IV Bolingbroke, first of House of Lancaster.
>
> Suggest you do your history homework!

To W. David Samuelson:

As I feared, Richardson's lack of scholarly methodology appears to have
led you astray. The Geoffrey Plantagent to whom you seem to refer was
(from most accounts) the father of Henry II, king of England, and
grandfather of Geoffrey, duke of Brittany (to whom Richardson appears
to be referring). That is the reason I posted the message on that name
- Richardson could, and apparently has, misled less well informed
listers.

Mr. Samuelson, I do not know how long you have been following the
postings on SGM. If you have done so for any time at all, you would
have known that many of us are well educated as historians. So, you
would be well advised to do your own reaseach before you say bad
things; in other words, follow the old adage: 'look before you leap.'

One more word of advice: when following Ricvhardson, do not leap at
all, the puddle may not hold water.

CED


>
> W. David Samuelsen


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