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From: "Douglas Richardson" <>
Subject: Re: Geoffrey Plantagenet's name
Date: 7 Feb 2006 11:12:34 -0800
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Richardson, Plantagnet Ancestry (2004), pg. 1 cites Ralph de Diceto:

Year 1150: "Dum Gaufridus Plantegenest comes Andegavorum rediret
Parisius a curia regis Francorum, concessit in fata apud Castrum Lidii,
sepultus est autem Cenomannis in ecclesia Sancti Juliani." [Stubbs,
Hist. Works of Master Ralph de Diceto, Dean of London, 1 (Rolls Ser.
68) (1876): 293].

This is the earliest instance that I've found of Geoffrey, Count of
Anjou, being styled Geoffrey Plantagenet. Early in his career, Ralph
de Diceto was Archdeacon of Middlesex, and afterwards served as Dean of
St. Paul's from 1180/1-c. 1201 [Reference: Diana Greenway, Fasti
Ecclesiae Anglicanae 1066-1300: volume 1: St. Paul's, London (1968),
pp. 4-8].

Inasmuch as Master Ralph de Diceto was a contemporary to Geoffrey's
son, King Henry II, his reference to Henry's father, Count Geoffrey, as
"Geoffrey Plantagenet" is almost contemporary to Count Geoffrey's life.

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

Website: www.royalncestry.net

"John Higgins" wrote:

> BTW, this DNB snippet is quoted in a recent publication called "Plantagenet
> Ancestry" by (guess who!) Douglas Richardson. The very first article in the
> book is about someone whom the author refers to as 'Geoffrey Planatagenet".
> This is certainly a sensible (but not historically accurate) way to refer to
> him since that's what he's commonly known as now, regardless of what his
> contemporaries called him.

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