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Subject: Re: Maud de Vernon, wife of Richard de la Haye
Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 19:52:06 EDT


Saturday, 20 May, 2006


Dear Tim,

The line of descent I have followed for the manor of Stanton
Harcourt is as laid out previously, by Alan Wilson and others.
Luckily, the VCH text for Stanton Harcourt is available online, and
I reproduce it here for your review.

The appearance is that Richard 'II' de Camville was the son of
Richard de Camville and Millicent of Rethel, and that
this was the basis for the restoration of Stanton Harcourt by King
Richard ca. 1189/90. The inheritance of Stanton Harcourt by
Isabel (not Millicent) de Camville and her husband Robert de
Harcourt is the basis for the identification I made.

Cheers,

John


P.S. - It appears that KSB K-R has erred, in calling the wife of
Robert (fitz Ivo) de Harcourt "Millicent de Camville" - as shown
in the VCH text, this was Isabel - Millicent was her mother
(Millicent (de Rethel) (de Marmion) de Camville, that is).

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'Stanton Harcourt: Manors and other estates', A History of the
County of Oxford: Volume 12: Wootton Hundred (South) including
Woodstock (1990), pp. 274-81.
URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.asp?compid=8119

" Manors and other estates
In 1066 STANTON, including land in South Leigh, was held by
Alnod, and in 1086 by Odo of Bayeux: it was reckoned at 26 hides,
(fn. 7) of which one lay in Hanborough and was given to Oseney abbey
c. 1138. (fn. 8) Another 1 ½ hide in 'Pereio', probably in South
Leigh, and held under Odo by Wadard, was apparently absorbed into
the main Stanton estate before the late 12th century. (fn. 9)
Following Odo's forfeiture the estate was held possibly by Ranulf
Flambard, and in 1101 by Rualon d'Avranches, perhaps in
custody. (fn. 10) Before 1130 Henry I gave it to his second wife
Queen Adela, (fn. 11) who alienated it piecemeal, mostly after 1135.
Before 1141 Adela gave to her kinswoman Millicent, wife of Robert
Marmion, land in Stanton Harcourt and South Leigh worth £40, four
fifths of the value in 1086. When Robert died c. 1144 the estate,
later called STANTON HARCOURT, passed to Millicent's second husband
Richard de Camville, on whose death in 1176 it was seized by Henry
II. (fn. 12) It was held in custody by Richard Rufus until
1190, (fn. 13) when Richard I restored it to Richard de Camville's
son Richard, who died on crusade in 1191; it then passed to Robert
de Harcourt of Bosworth (Leics.), who had married the elder Richard
de Camville's daughter Isabel. (fn. 14) Thereafter, apart from a
brief period in the early 17th century, Stanton Harcourt descended
in the main line of the English Harcourts, who made it their
principal seat until the early 18th century. "

Footnotes:

7 V.C.H. Oxon. i. 404; above, S. Leigh, Intro.; Manors.
8 Oseney Cart. i, p. 3; iv, pp. 16-17, 21, 84, 107.
9 V.C.H. Oxon. i. 405; above, Intro.; below.
10 Hist. Mon. Abingdon (Rolls Ser.), ii. 84-5; Royal Writs Eng. (Selden Soc.
lxxvii), p. 485.
11 Reading Cart. i, no. 536a; Pipe R. 1130 (H.M.S.O. facsimile), 6.
12 Reading Cart. i, pp. 402-3, 405-6; Eynsham Cart. i, pp. 398-9; Reg. Regum
Anglo-Norm. iii, no. 140; Complete Peerage, viii. 506-7; Pipe R. 1191 & 92
(P.R.S. N.S. ii), xxv-xxvi.
13 Pipe R. 1182 (P.R.S. xxxi), 124; 1190 (P.R.S. N.S. i), 11; 1191 & 92
(P.R.S. N.S. ii), 100; cf. Eynsham Cart. i, pp.398-9.
14 Sir C. Hatton's Bk. Seals (Northants. Rec. Soc. xv), no. 42; Pipe R. 1191
& 92 (P.R.S. N.S. ii), 251. "









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