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From: "Todd A. Farmerie" <>
Subject: Re: Charlemagne Line??
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 14:06:02 -0600
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wrote:
> D. Afonso Henriques, king of Portugal & Mafalda de Sabóia
> Henry of Burgundy, count of Portugal & Teresa of Castile, countess of
> Portugal
> Henry, duke of Burgundy & (poss.) Beatrice of Barcelona

Again, no evidence for her name, and her origin is speculative.

> Robert I 'the Old' duke of Burgundy & Helie de Sémur
> Robert II king of France & Constance de Arles
> Hugh I Capet, king of France & Adelaide de Poitou
> Hugh 'the Great' marquis of Neustria, duke of France & Hedwige of
> Saxony
> Beatrice of Vermandois & Robert I, king of the Franks
> Héribert I, count of Vermandois & Berthe de Morvois
> Pipin II, count of Vermandois & NN
> Bernard, king of Italy & Cunégonde de Toulouse
> Pippin II, king of Italy & Berthe de Toulouse (poss.)

The origin of these two wives is highly speculative, and alternatives to
Toulouse have been suggested for each.


> Mafalda de Sabóia & D. Afonso Henriques, king of Portugal
> Amedeo III count of Savoye & Mathilde de Albon
> Gisele of Burgundy & Humberto II count of Savoye and Mauriane
> William I, count palatine of Burgundy (a) & Stephanie de Longwy

She was not "de Longwy". This was based on a misinterpretation of two
pieces of data, plus some added speculation by Szabolcs de Vajay. He
has since retracted this identification without qualification, and there
is reason to believe that the supposed father Albert of Longwy died
without marrying, nor is there any evidence that Stephanie derived from
this region. Her parentage is one of the great genealogical puzzles of
the period.

> P.S. - I did not check the descent from Afonso I.

ditto.

taf

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