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From: "Peter Stewart" <>
Subject: Re: Popes and Pornocrats - Pandolfus
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 01:50:06 GMT
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""Merilyn Pedrick"" <> wrote in message
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> OK, now I think I have the right Sichelgarda, or as I have her Sigelgaita
> de Salerno, died 1090, since Peasemarch mentioned her marriage to Robert
> Guiscard.
> But Peter Stewart says she was the daughter of Pandolf of Salerno. I have
> her as daughter of Waimar IV died 1052 and Porpora. Waimar's parents were
> Waimar III died 1027 and Gatelgaima de Capua. Since I entered this
> information in the days before I realised the importance of quoting
> sources,
> I've no idea where this information came from.
> Can anyone put me straight?
> Merilyn Pedrick

As below, I wrote that "Sichelgaita, a daughter of Pandolf of Salerno, lord
of Capaccio, may have been the first wife of Roger I, lord of Rota
(Sanseverino)",

She was a different woman from the famous Sichelgaita (daughter of Waimar
IV, prince of Salerno) who maried Robert Guiscard.

Sichelgarda is not only another different woman (daughter of Landolf of
Salerno, lord of Policastro), but her name is also different.

Peter Stewart


> -------Original Message-------
>
> From: Peasemarch.
> Date: 07/29/06 01:14:00
> To:
> Subject: Re: Popes and Pornocrats - Pandolfus
>
> Peter Stewart wrote:
>> "Ken Ozanne" <> wrote in message
>> news:C0F00406.2379%...
>> > All,
>> > The above is the sample article for FMG and is Foundations 2003 1
> (1):
>> > 5-21, by Lindsay Brook.
>> >
>> > In figure 2, the chart shows Pandolfus, Prince of Salerno (murdered
>> > 1052), married to Theodora, daughter of Gregorius II. From this couple
>> > there
>> > is alleged descent to the Plantagenets.
>> >
>> > Does anyone know how?
>>
>> I'm not sure what descent Lindsay Brook was tracing - I can't find any
>> definite line, but this is not from an exhaustive search.
>>
>> Sichelgaita, a daughter of Pandolf of Salerno, lord of Capaccio, may have
>> been the first wife of Roger I, lord of Rota (Sanseverino), who was an
>> ancestor of Jacquetta of Luxembourg. However, this was through Roger's
>> second marriage, to Sichelgarda, a daughter of Landolf of Salerno, lord
>> of
>> Policastro.
>>
>> A possible line of descent from Pandolf of Capaccio to Jacquetta that has
>> been conjectured but not yet proved (as far as I know) is through his
>> granddaughter Emma, who married Lampus, lord of Fasanella. They _may_
>> have
>> been ancestors of Perna, wife of Thomas I, count of Sanseverino & Marsico
>> (executed in July 1246).
>>
>> Peter Stewart
>
> I haven't got the means to look this up properly, but I think Robert
> Guiscard and Sichelgaita had a daughter called Heria who married Hugh V
> of Maine. I know that Erembourge brought Maine to Anjou when she
> married Fulk, grandfather of Henry II. Whether or how Erembourge was
> related to Hugh V, I'm not sure - but it's a lead.
>
>


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