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From: "Leo van de Pas" <>
Subject: Re: Charlemagne Line??
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 12:25:33 +1000
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Dear Todd,

What is the correct spelling of the firstname? You show Dalmas, Turton (page
200) shows Dalmace, ES III/3 434 uses Damas and so does Gaston Sirjean.

Which one are you referring to? There are three in that family. It can't be
Damas I, as his mother goes nowhere. Damas II for him I have no parents,
that leaves Damas III, and I have him as mentioned in 1223 no wife no
children. However, in my system it is Damas I, which appears as an ancestor
as nr.18.

The numbers I gave were 4128, 4896, 8848 and 8944

1.Alfonso I King of Portugal
2.Henri Count of Portugal
4.Henri de Bourgogne
8.Robert I Duke of Burgundy
9.Helie de Semur
16.Robert II King of France
17.Constance de Provence
19.Aremburge de Bourgogne
32.Hugues Capet, King of France
34.Guillaume II the Liberator Count of Arles and Provence
38.Henri Duke of Burgundy
64-76.Hugues the Great, Duke of the Franks
69.Constance de Provence
76=64.
129-153.Beatrice de Vermandois
138.Karl Konstantin Count ofVienne
139.Teutberga de Troyes
258-306.Herbert I de Vermandois
276.Louis III, King of Lower Burgundy
279.Teutberga of Arles
306=258
516-612.Pepin de Senlis
553.Ermengard
559.Bertha de Lorraine
1032-1224. Bernard I of Italy
1106.Ludwig II
1118.Lothar II
2064-2448 Pippin I
2212-2236 Lothar I
2236=2212
4128-4896-8848-8944 Charlemagne
4424-4472 Louis the Pious

I hope I copied this correctly, any correction or addition greatly
appreciated.
Leo van de Pas
Canberra, Australia

----- Original Message -----
From: "Todd A. Farmerie" <>
To: <>
Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 11:22 AM
Subject: Re: Charlemagne Line??


> Leo van de Pas wrote:
>> Dear Todd,
>> I have given the numbers in the ancestor list. If need be I can make an
>> ancestor list and send it to you.
>
> If I am calculating it out right, it looks like you are going through the
> wife and mother of Dalmas of Semur, but that too is quite speculative, as
> I recall.
>
> taf
>
>

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