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From: "Clagett, Brice" <>
Subject: John, Lord of Mawddwy/Mouthwy, son in law of Sir Fulke Corbet
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 16:24:24 -0500
> This comments on Michael Miller's most interesting post
> of January 23.
> According to Bartrum's Welsh Genealogies, Bleddyn ap Cynfyn
> p. 31, the descent has yet another more generation in it than
Michael concludes, and two more than Camden. Bartrum's version is:
> 1. Gruffudd ap Gwenwynwyn, c. 1200-1286, m. Hawise
> Le Strange.
> 2. William de la Pole.
> 3. Gruffudd.
> 4. Wilcock Mawddwy, or William de la Pole, living 1352. (For
> this Bartrum cites G.T.O. Bridgeman, History of the Princes
> of South Wales p. 289 -- a book which I own, but I can't find
> it just now.
> 5. John, sheriff of Shropshire 1388, d. 1403.
> 6a. Fulk, b. 1390, d.c. 1414 s.p.
> 6b. Elizabeth, m. Sir [sic, I think] Hugh Burgh, Lord of
> Mawddwy, d. 1430.
> If the 1200 date estimated for the first Gruffudd's birth is
> accurate, then the above version produces quite long
> generations -- 38 years. Michael's version is longer still --
> 47 years -- and Camden's is 63.
> The above account gives no wife for William or Wilcock,
> but at Rhys ap Tewdr p. 7 Barttrum shows Margred,
> daughter of Thomas ap Llewellyn (and sister of Elen,
> mother of Owen Glendower), as marrying (1) Wilcock ap
> Gruffudd, with a cross-reference to Bleddyn ap Cynfyn
> p. 31, and (2) Tudor ap Goronwy, the eponymous ances-
> tor of the house of Tudor. If this is right, and if Margaret
was mother of Wilcock's son John, the four Burgh
> heiresses who brought Corbet manors to the Newport,
> Leighton, Lingen and Mitton families were half-third
> cousins of King Henry VII.
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