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From: "taf" <>
Subject: Re: Wingfield Coats-of-Arms
Date: 16 Feb 2007 22:39:13 -0800
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On Feb 15, 7:29 am, Nathaniel Taylor <>
wrote:

> I doubt this came from glass--I expect it's a copy of a more
> contemporary ensemble that may well have been like this, on canvas (or
> perhaps embroidery, like the interesting extant Lewkenor one).

OK, now that I have seen it, I agree.

Curious error by the artist. I suspect the author in expanding John's
coat intended the Boville arms in quadrant 5, but forgot what he was
doing and mistakenly used John's unexpanded coat (as used for his
siblings) rather than a solely paternal coat, hence the Goushill/
chequy quarterly in 5.

> There are at least a couple of unknown Goushill spouses immediately
> above the father of this Elizabeth Goushill, and it's certainly possible
> that one of them was thought to have brought in a chequy coat--either an
> obscure Warenne or some heraldic look-alike.

Could it be or and vert (Hakeford)? I would think if they were going
to quarter Warenne they would do Fitz Alan as well. I have a Goushill
pedigree somewhere. I will have to dig it out.

taf

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