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From: "John P. Ravilious" <>
Subject: Re: Pure English Royalty
Date: 18 Feb 2007 19:40:17 -0800
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Dear Michael,

Thanks for tossing your hat (crown ?) into the ring.

Two 'upgrades' I might note in the regal ancestry of Edward III's
g-grandparents:

6. Isabel of Aragon <- Harold II Godwinsson (chronologically
closer than Alfred)
8. Blanche of Artois <- gg granddaughter of Henry II of England
(also ggg granddaughter of King Stephen)

Cheers,

John




On Feb 18, 9:37 pm, wrote:
> On Feb 19, 12:34 pm, "John P. Ravilious" <> wrote:
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> > Dear Will,
>
> > There likely are other candidates that others will put forth.
>
> > Two I can identify, using your great-grandparents test (and
> > assuming the House of Gwynedd, or Aberffraw, in Wales meets your
> > 'Royals' test) are Sir Edward Hastings of Elsing (b. bef 22 May 1382;
> > d. 6 Jan 1436/7) and his first wife, Muriel Dinham (d. bef 1 Jul
> > 1427). The latter is predicated upon the identification by Doug
> > Richardson of the mother of Margaret de Monthermer, Baroness
> > Monthermer (d. 24 Mar 1394/5, wife of John de Montagu, Lord Montagu of
> > Wark) as Margaret de Braose, daughter of Piers de Braose of Tetbury,
> > Gloucs. and his wife Agnes.
>
> > Cheers,
>
> > John
>
> > On Feb 18, 7:36 pm, wrote:
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> > > Who is the earliest known person, where every one of their great-grandparents
> > > has an English (or British) Royal ascent?
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> > > That is, each of their great-grandparents ascends to some Monarch of England?- Hide quoted text -
>
> Here's an earlier one - Edward III again - born 1312 - each with an
> English King:
>
> Great grandparents:
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> 1. King Henry III - a descendant of King John (unsurprisingly)
> 2. Eleanor of Provence - a descendant of King Edward 'the Elder'
> 3. King Ferdinand III of Castile - Henry II
> 4. Joan of Ponthieu - William I
> 5. King Philip IV of France - Henry II
> 6. Isabel of Aragon - Alfred the Great
> 7. Henry of Navarre - William I
> 8. Blanche of Artois - Alfred the Great
>
> MA-R- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -


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