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From: "Leo van de Pas" <>
Subject: Re: Descents From Edward III For 1st Baron Wenlock (1784-1852)
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 10:54:05 +1000
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Dear Brad,

I think this is a very interesting ancestry, but have a look
below..............
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brad Verity" <>
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Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 10:25 AM
Subject: Descents From Edward III For 1st Baron Wenlock (1784-1852)


> Paul Beilby Lawley Thompson, 1st Baron Wenlock (1784-1852) has several
> descents from Edward I through his paternal line, the Lawleys,
> Baronets of Spoonhill, Shropshire. The paternal line of his mother
> Jane Thompson goes back to Sir Henry Thompson (c.1625-1683), a wealthy
> wine merchant from York who served as Lord Mayor of that city in 1663
> and 1672. But through his Beilby ancestry he has some descents from
> Edward III. Three of them from Joan Beaufort are given below.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Thompson%2C_1st_Baron_Wenlock
>
> Joan Beaufort, Countess of Westmorland (c.1379-1440) had a son (C1)
> and 2 daughters (A1 & B1)
>
> A1) Elizabeth Ferrers, Lady Greystoke (1393-1434), who had
> A2) Ralph, 5th Lord Greystoke (c.1414-1487), who had
> A3) Sir Robert Greystoke (d. 1483) m. 1) Elizabeth Grey (see B3
> below), and had
> A4) Elizabeth Greystoke (1471-1516) m. Thomas, 3rd Lord Dacre
> (1467-1525), and had
> A5) Elizabeth Dacre m. Thomas Musgrave of Hayton Castle (d. 1532), and
> had
-------------------Gerald Paget has this Elizabeth as the illegitimate
daughter of Thomas Dacre, 2nd Lord Dacre 1467-1525 by an unknown mistress.
Obviously his 2nd Lord Dacre and your 3rd are one and the same person.
Leo



> A6) William Musgrave of Hayton (c.1521-1597) m. Isabel Martindale, and
> had
> A7) Eleanor Musgrave (c.1560-1597) m. 1576 Sir Christopher Lowther of
> Lowther (1557-1617, descended from Edward III but not thru Joan
> Beaufort), and had
> A8) Sir John Lowther of Lowther (1582-1637) m. Eleanor Fleming (see C7
> below), and had
> A9) Sir John Lowther, 1st Baronet (1606-1675) m. 1) 1626 Mary Fletcher
> (d. 1648), and had
> A10) Barbara Lowther (1634-1705) m. 1661 John Beilby of Micklethwaite
> Grange, Yorks. (1637-1702), and had
> A11) Mary Beilby of Micklethwaite Grange (1662-17--) m. 1685 Henry
> Thompson of Escrick Hall, Yorks. (1659-1700), and had
> A12) Beilby Thompson of Escrick (1686-1750) m. 2) 17-Sarah Roundell
> (d. 1773), and had
> A13) Jane Thompson (1743-1816) m. 1764 Sir Robert Lawley, 5th Baronet
> (1736-1793), and had
> A14) Paul Beilby Lawley Thompson, 1st Baron Wenlock (1784-1852)
>
> B1) Eleanor Nevill, Countess of Northumberland (d. 1473), who had
> B2) Katherine Percy , Countess of Kent (1423-1504), who had
> B3) Elizabeth Grey (d. 1472) m. Sir Robert Greystoke (see A3 above)
>
> C1) Richard Nevill, Earl of Salisbury (1400-1460), who had
> C2) Richard Nevill 'The Kingmaker' (1428-1471), who had
> C3) Margaret Nevill (illeg.) (d.1498) m. 1) 1465 Sir Richard
> Huddleston (c.1440-1485), and had
> C4) Joan Huddleston (c.1480-1538) m. Hugh Fleming of Rydal (d. 1558),
> and had
> C5) Anthony Fleming of Rydal (d. 1537/8) m. 2) 1532 Elizabeth Hutton
> (d.c.1534), and had
> C6) William Fleming of Rydal (c.1534-1598) m. 2) by 1575 Agnes
> Bindloss (d. 1631), and had
> C7) Eleanor Fleming (c.1583-1659) m. 1602 Sir John Lowther of Lowther
> (see A8 above)
>
> Cheers, ------Brad
>
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