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From: Ernst Hoffmann <>
Subject: Fwd: Queen Elizabeth II (21 April 1926- )
Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 21:25:39 +0200
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>
> And there was this scholar, who wrote a book about "good queen
> Elisabeth of England" and dedicated it to Queen Victoria....
>
> She was later heard to say: But I descent from Mary of Scots.....
>
> nugh said
>
> Ernst
>
> Am 09.05.2007 um 20:56 schrieb Paul C:
>
>> On Wed, 09 May 2007 18:42:09 +0100, Andrew Swallow
>> <> wrote:
>>
>>> Paul C wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 09 May 2007 00:41:32 +0100, Andrew Swallow
>>>> <> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Paul C wrote:
>>>>> [snip]
>>>>>
>>>>>> Erm, are you suggesting the first couple of dozen on the list
>>>>>> *were*
>>>>>> Kings of Britain?
>>>>> When you get this technical watch out for the difference in
>>>>> definitions
>>>>> between "Britain" and "Great Briton". Scotland is part of
>>>>> "Great Briton".
>>>>
>>>> There's nothing technical about pointing out the nonsense of
>>>> listing
>>>> Kings/Queens of England as British monarchs, yet ignoring Scottish
>>>> monarchs.
>>>>
>>>> Whoever drew up the list is just plain wrong.
>>>
>>> Technical point - define British/Britain.
>>
>> It doesn't matter whether we are discussing (Great) Britain or the
>> United Kingdom.
>>
>> Pre-Union, listing English monarchs and calling them British is a
>> nonsense. They are no more 'British' than the Scottish monarchs who
>> were ignored.
>>
>> Looks like whoever made all this up is one of those people who
>> doesn't
>> understand the distinction between 'English' and 'British'.
>>
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