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From: Peter Stewart <>
Subject: Re: The Middleham Tailboys
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 18:37:06 -0700
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On Jul 27, 5:39 pm, "Lancaster-Boon" <>
wrote:
> It appears that Beatrice Tailboys, daughter of Ivo, and her husband Ribald
> of Middleham had not one (Ralf or Randolph) but several sons, all of whom
> used the name Tailboys? They were Hervey, Rainald, and William.
>
> As pointed out to me by Susan Johanson to me, the source for this assertion
> of Keats-Rohan seems to be...
>
> Rev, H. C. Fitz Herbert, "An Original Pedigree of Tailbois and Neville" The
> Genealogist, ns iii (1886), 31.
>
> Has anyone seen this article or have access to it, in order to determine
> what the evidence for these sons is?

The pedigree printed by Fitz Herbert in 1886 was of unknown date "well
written in the hand of the reign of Henry VI". It belonged to a Major
William Martin, inherited by him from the Beresford family of Bentley,
Derbyshire. Dugdale apparently quoted from this manuscript or "more
likely a tricked copy of it" that was part of the collections of the
Somerset herald Glover, sold to Lord Burghley.

The pedigree begins with Ribald, brother of Count Alan Rufus, and his
wife Beatrix, giving their younger sons with the surname Tailboys as
follows:

"I. Radulphum
II. Heruey, filium Ribaldi, dictum Tailboys.
III. Raynaldum, filium Ribaldi, dictum Taylboys.
IIII. Willelmum, filium Ribaldi, dictum Tailboys."

Peter Stewart

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