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From: "Leo van de Pas" <>
Subject: Re: Isabella di Chiaramonte m 1444 Ferdinand I, King of Naples
Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 12:00:45 +1000
References: <20070811214902.E82D38888F@seahorse.mweb.co.za>


ES (Isenburg) volume II Tafel 48
calls her Isabella von Clermont, died 1465, no parents given

ES (Schwennicke) Volume II Tafel 67
calls her Isabel de Clermont died 1465, daughter of Tristan, Conte di
Cupertino, and Catarina Orsini di Tarente

Cahiers de Saint Louis, Page 693
Isabelle de Clermont, heiress of Tarente, daughter of Tristan, Conte de
Cupertino, and Catherine Orsini, heiress of Tarente

The confusion with Baux / Balzo may have originiated with Catherine Orsini,
she is also recorded as Catherine Orsini del Balzo, she is daughter of
Raimondello Orsini del Balzo, Prince of Taranto and Maria d'Enghien

In Gustave Noblemaire's "Histoire de la Maison des Baux" on page 219 is a
small family tree.

The line you want is

Robert Orsini, Count Palatine of Nola
married 1330 Sueva de Baux de Soleto
/
Raymond Orsini Balzo died 1406
married Marie d'Enghien, countess of Lecce
/
Catherine Orsini Balzo
married Tristan de Chiaramonte, Conte de Copertino
/
Isabelle de Chiaramonte
married Ferrante I, King of Naples

Hope this helps?
With best wishes
Leo van de Pas
Canberra, Australia




----- Original Message -----
From: "Don McArthur" <>
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Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 7:48 AM
Subject: Isabella di Chiaramonte m 1444 Ferdinand I, King of Naples


I'm trying to place this Isabella.



She seems to be either the daughter of Tristan de Clermont-Lodève [c 1380 -
1432] by Caterina Orsini

www.genmarenostrun.com <http://www.genmarenostrun.com/>; under Orsini has
the following M3. Caterina, Nobile Romana. = Bartolomeo (detto Tristano) di
Chiaramonte (de Clermont) Conte di Copertino (* 1380 ca. + 1432).

Or daughter of Tristan de Clermont-Lodève [b c 1400, son of Barthelmi c 1380
- 1432 by Caterina Orsini] m 1423 Sybille des Baux des Ursines.

Dates would make the second option more probable, but the confusion of names
is, well confusing.

Any ideas?

Regards,

Don McArthur.




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