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From: CE Wood <>
Subject: Re: Isabella di Chiaramonte m 1444 Ferdinand I, King of Naples
Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 10:16:39 -0700
Don't leave out Nicola, the missing generation between Robert &
>Robert Orsini, Count Palatine of Nola married 1330 Sueva de Baux de Soleto
Nicola Orsini, Count of Nola married 1352/1355 Giovanna (or Gorizia)
>Raymond Orsini Balzo died 1406, married Marie d'Enghien, countess of Lecce
On Aug 11, 7:00 pm, "Leo van de Pas" <> wrote:
> ES (Isenburg) volume II Tafel 48
> calls her Isabella von Clermont, died 1465, no parents given
> ES (Schwennicke) Volume II Tafel 67
> calls her Isabel de Clermont died 1465, daughter of Tristan, Conte di
> Cupertino, and Catarina Orsini di Tarente
> Cahiers de Saint Louis, Page 693
> Isabelle de Clermont, heiress of Tarente, daughter of Tristan, Conte de
> Cupertino, and Catherine Orsini, heiress of Tarente
> The confusion with Baux / Balzo may have originiated with Catherine Orsini,
> she is also recorded as Catherine Orsini del Balzo, she is daughter of
> Raimondello Orsini del Balzo, Prince of Taranto and Maria d'Enghien
> In Gustave Noblemaire's "Histoire de la Maison des Baux" on page 219 is a
> small family tree.
> The line you want is
> Robert Orsini, Count Palatine of Nola
> married 1330 Sueva de Baux de Soleto
> Raymond Orsini Balzo died 1406
> married Marie d'Enghien, countess of Lecce
> Catherine Orsini Balzo
> married Tristan de Chiaramonte, Conte de Copertino
> Isabelle de Chiaramonte
> married Ferrante I, King of Naples
> Hope this helps?
> With best wishes
> Leo van de Pas
> Canberra, Australia
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Don McArthur" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 7:48 AM
> Subject: Isabella di Chiaramonte m 1444 Ferdinand I, King of Naples
> I'm trying to place this Isabella.
> She seems to be either the daughter of Tristan de Clermont-Lodève [c 1380 -
> 1432] by Caterina Orsini
> www.genmarenostrun.com<http://www.genmarenostrun.com/> under Orsini has
> the following M3. Caterina, Nobile Romana. = Bartolomeo (detto Tristano) di
> Chiaramonte (de Clermont) Conte di Copertino (* 1380 ca. + 1432).
> Or daughter of Tristan de Clermont-Lodève [b c 1400, son of Barthelmi c 1380
> - 1432 by Caterina Orsini] m 1423 Sybille des Baux des Ursines.
> Dates would make the second option more probable, but the confusion of names
> is, well confusing.
> Any ideas?
> Don McArthur.
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