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From: Ken Wood <>
Subject: Re: The Long Knives Are Out For George Tenet
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 12:54:24 -0700
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On Aug 22, 10:54 am, Tiglath <> wrote:
> On Aug 22, 12:40 pm, Ken Wood <> wrote:
>
> > All this concentrates on intelligence failures regarding the 911
> > attacks.
>
> > It ignores common sense security.
>
> > First, the only viable large casualty method open to terrorists at
> > that time was a large airplane "kamikaze" attack of the the type they
> > did. It could have been foreseen, thwarted or precluded merely by
> > fortified cockpit doors and an in-plane camera system for monitoring
> > activity in the passenger compartment. It was systematic stupidity
> > from the airlines, the government, insurers and re-insurers that none
> > of that was done years before.
>
> > So much for the concept of free market efficiency.
>
> You forget the prime motivator: low fares.

No, the costs would have been trivial and if all airlines were
required to implement them, then the minor rises would not have put
any one of them at a compertitive disadvantage. The lack of doing it,
led to bankruptcies and much higher greater costs in fares and taxes.


>
> Remember that next time your flight departs hours late or it is
> canceled.
>
> Even if it had been foreseen, it doesn't mean that the measures you
> mentioned would have been put into effect.

Insurance providers could and should have have caused these kinds
measures long before any specific threat. It should have been done
years ago.


>
> The public is ruthless and demands low fares. Anything that will
> make low fares hard will be resisted. Airlines are already juggling
> priorities to maintain competitive fares in the face of severe
> challenges, like stricter security, and a crumbingly old air traffic
> control system wholly inadequate for today's traffic.
>
> It will take billions and decades to update. They tried once already
> in the 90s and they failed, when only a small part of the system was
> updated after grievous losses and a ten-year effort.
>
> Something has to give and at the moment that is efficiency. To think
> that without a CLEAR and PRESENT threat, and only on mere probability,
> the government or the airlines would fortify all their aircraft cabins
> is naive.

Fortify a door. It's was and is common sense.



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