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From: Turenne <>
Subject: Re: Duke of Buccleuch Dies
Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2007 15:39:51 -0700
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As Hovite stated earlier:

>>>>After Sir Piers de Gavaston was beheaded, bereft King Edward II found
solace in the arms of Hugh Despenser the Younger. This displeased the
Queen and she was vengeful. The Complete Peerage, 2nd edition, tells
the awful tale: "He accompanied the King in his flight to Wales in
October 1326, and with the King was captured near Llantrisant, County
Glamorgan, 16 November 1326. He was taken to Hereford, tried -
without
being allowed to speak in own defence - condemned to death as a
traitor, and hanged on a gallows 50 feet high, 24 November 1326. His
head was set up on London Bridge, 4 December, and his quarters in
four
different places [Dover, Bristol, York, and Newcastle] ... The Queen
obtained his movables, plate, and jewels, 8 January 1327". >>>>>

It's important not to get the Spencers mixed up with the Despencers;
although the Spencers claim descent from the more ancient family,
their relationship is somewhat tenuous. It is interesting to note that
the Spencer coat of arms is the same as that of the Despencer's, but I
feel that Garter was being charitable when granting the arms.

Richard





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