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From: "a.spencer3" <>
Subject: Re: Duke of Buccleuch Dies
Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2007 09:42:09 GMT
"William Black" <> wrote in message
> "John Briggs" <> wrote in message
> > No, no, no - 'Despencer' is just the official who dispenses, food etc,
> > i.e. the Butler. Every household would have one, and it was a
> > particularly important function - that is why it became a surname.
> I've read that as well, but the servants of the 'inner household' became
> the professional Civil Service pretty quickly.
> While it's possible that the butler of the Duke of Normandy was just that,
> the bottler, the butler of the king of England probably wasn't.
> Thinking about it, the fact that Despencer was knighted probably
> that the job was already something well beyond carrying in the boar's head
> at the high point of dinner...
> The butler was one of the officials in charge of the booze rather than the
> food, what you're thinking of is the steward, who was in charge of the
> lot. I think there were four lots of servants involved in serving a meal,
> think the ewerers, pantlers, sewerers and butlers, but it was all told
> a lecture long ago and I'm probably wrong...
The name origins might have been more humble.
But by 1066 some Spencers and Stewards, for instance, had risen to the top.
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