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From: WJhonson <>
Subject: Re: Genealogical Cliques
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 12:29:30 -0700
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<<In a message dated 09/08/07 21:30:31 Pacific Standard Time, writes:
"Afterwards, on the fifteenth day after Holy Trinity [1241], at
Gloucester, the jurors came and the inquest was held before our lord
the King by [12 jurors and 5 others, named], who say upon their oath
that King Henry I gave the aforesaid manor of Badmondisfield to a
certain Baldwin de Bullers in marriage with Sibilla de la Faleyse, his
niece,..
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Before a thousand people rush to update their trees, we should remember that "neptis" here [mis]translated as "niece" had at this time, and for many centuries after, a broader meaning than it's CURRENT Latin meaning of niece.

It is far more likely that Sibyl was only some sort of near relation like "cousin", rather than a previously un-noticed illegitimate daughter or actual "niece" of Henry.

Will Johnson

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