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From: WJhonson <>
Subject: Re: Complete Peerage Addition: Joan Neville (died 1433),wife of Sir Hugh Cokesey
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 16:21:26 -0700
Henry Ogard (or Agard) is mentioned as "age four" at his father's death.
Anne Agard, his sister who married Robert Crane had herself to be born by 1450 as her daughter Margery (Crane) Appleton is already a mother in 1478
"A Genealogy of the Wives of the American Presidents and their First Two Generations of Descent", by Craig Hart
Thelma Catherine "Pat" Nixon, G-9)
Since Alice was yet married to Hugh Cokesey in 1445 then her daughter Anne Agard had to be born exactly between 1445 and 1450.
There is an old query whether Alice may not be that Alice Lovell daughter of John, 6th Lord Lovell of Titchmarsh by his wife Eleanor le Zouche.
If so, this Alice Lovell must have been born exactly between 1401 and 1415 to allow her still to be having children as late as Henry Ogard (or Agard).