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From: "D. Spencer Hines" <>
Subject: Re: Kings, Queens, Queers, Bones and Bastards
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 02:59:57 +0100
Yep, but ENVY is often involved in these situations TOO -- by those who
CANNOT readily find free nookie.
I've often heard it applied that way by "the less fortunate".
There is nothing wrong in being ambitious.
And RESPONSIBILITY is a very murky concept in such situations.
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
"Renia" <> wrote in message
>I suppose, put more simply, "on the make" means to be "after something",
>because we also use it for males out looking for females for some, er, fun.
>Either way, to be on the make is to be after something, without recognising
>the responsibility which might go with it. Hence the term's derogatory
>nature. Nothing to do with envy.
> D. Spencer Hines wrote:
>> That's coherent.
>> But it often seems to be used as a smear against people who are simply
>> ambitious and better off than the smearer -- who is an envious person.
>> We Americans used to use it in describing a sexually aggressive male "on
>> the make" looking for a pliant chick.
>> The expression faded because pliant chicks are abundant -- indeed there's
>> a surplus of them.
>> "Renia" <> wrote in message
>>>D. Spencer Hines wrote:
>>>>What do you folks mean by _on the make_ -- EXACTLY?
>>>Someone who wants to make as much financial and social gain for himself
>>>as possible. These people are seen as selfish, greedy and pretentious.
>>>The difference between someone "on the make" and someone who is trying to
>>>"better himself" is that the former will ruthlessly tread on other
>>>people's toes to do so while the latter will do it through personal
>>>education and career moves.
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