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Subject: Re: Pamplona - Navarre puzzle
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 18:41:19 -0700
On Oct 15, 5:10 pm, "M.Sjostrom" <> wrote:
> This genealogical musing leads me to another, related
> point: is something known definitely about the order
> of seniority between legitimate sons of Sancho III the
> Great ?
> In some genealogy, IIRC in some of these "standard
> works", Fernando of Castile is even mentioned a few
> years older than Garcia of Najera.
> It is not inconceivable that nucleus of ancestral
> lands were left to younger son in a division, as a
> maternal inheritance fairly often needs a male ruler
> before the paternal land.
> How is it? Is there any primary document which would
> explicitly tell the seniority order, or indicate in a
> plausible way that matter by, say, a listing of
> children in a conjunction where seniority order is
> expected, or explicitly say those birth years.
There seems near-universal agreement among Spanish authors that the
order is Garcia, Fernando, Gonzalo, Bernardo. (Also, there appears to
have been a son Ramiro who d.v.p., distinct from the illegitimate
brother of the same name, but I don't recall where he falls.)
Unfortunately, I don't think I have any good source that provides
primary documentation of this but I have never seen it questioned in
an informed source, and those that make Fernando eldest seem to be
basing this on the later dominance of the Leon/Castile kingdom that
could not have been anticipated prior to the death of Vermudo III, a
couple of years after the division.