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From: "D. Spencer Hines" <>
Subject: Re: Joan de Clinton, Widow Of John de Montfort, John de Clinton,And Henry ap Griffith
Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 18:54:30 -0000
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Hypotheticals:

If John de Sutton was born on 6 December 1361 and his mother Katherine de
Stafford died before 25 December 1361 -- at 13 years of age -- because of
complications from childbirth, with her first child, would that not be a
quite plausible scenario, in the 14th Century?

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas

"Douglas Richardson" <> wrote in message
news:f73eea5e-1633-48e7-9b4c-
...

> So we have three birth years for John de Sutton in his so called Proof
> of Age: 1360, 1361, and 1362. I say take your pick, or, if you
> prefer, throw a dart. Either way the Proof of Age is not the best
> piece of evidence, except perhaps for revealing that John de Sutton
> was born at Coleshill, Warwickshire, which was the chief estate of
> Joan de Clinton.

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• Joan de Clinton, widow of John de Montfort, John de Clinton, and Henry ap Griffith by Douglas Richardson <>
  • Re: Joan de Clinton, widow of John de Montfort, John de Clinton, and Henry ap Griffith by Douglas Richardson <>
  • Re: Joan de Clinton, widow of John de Montfort, John de Clinton, and Henry ap Griffith by Douglas Richardson <>
  • Re: Joan de Clinton, widow of John de Montfort, John de Clinton, and Henry ap Griffith by Brad Verity <>
  • Re: Joan de Clinton, widow of John de Montfort, John de Clinton,and Henry ap Griffith by "D. Spencer Hines" <>
  • Re: Joan de Clinton, widow of John de Montfort, John de Clinton, and Henry ap Griffith by Douglas Richardson <>
  • Re: Joan de Clinton, widow of John de Montfort, John de Clinton, and Henry ap Griffith by Douglas Richardson <>
  • Re: Joan de Clinton, widow of John de Montfort, John de Clinton, and Henry ap Griffith by CE Wood <>
  • Re: Joan de Clinton, widow of John de Montfort, John de Clinton,and Henry ap Griffith by "D. Spencer Hines" <>
  • Re: Joan de Clinton, widow of John de Montfort, John de Clinton, and Henry ap Griffith by CE Wood <>
  • Re: Joan de Clinton, widow of John de Montfort, John de Clinton, and Henry ap Griffith by
  • Re: Joan de Clinton, widow of John de Montfort, John de Clinton, and Henry ap Griffith by Douglas Richardson <>

  • Re: Joan de Clinton, Widow Of John de Montfort, John de Clinton,And Henry ap Griffith by "D. Spencer Hines" <>

  • Re: Joan de Clinton, widow of John de Montfort, John de Clinton,and Henry ap Griffith by "Monica Kanellis" <>
  • Re: Joan de Clinton, widow of John de Montfort, John de Clinton, and Henry ap Griffith by Brad Verity <>
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  • Re: Joan de Clinton, widow of John de Montfort, John de Clinton, and Henry ap Griffith by "" <>