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From: John Brandon <>
Subject: Re: A few additions and corrections to the _Great Migration_ volumes
Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 13:53:07 -0800 (PST)
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1620 (Ralph Fogg)

MARRIAGE: By 1636 Susanna ___; "Susana Fogge" is in the list of
Salem church members compiled late in 1636, with the later annotation
"removed" [SChR 6]; she was living at Plymouth, England, 21 March
1673/4 [ELR 4:79].

CHILDREN:

i JOHN, b. by about 1628 (sold land at Salem 20 February 1648/9
[ELR 1:7, 8]; one parcel sold "with the consent of his mother," but no
consent mentioned in sale of another parcel the same day); m. by 1
August 1665 Grace ___ (living at Barnstable, England at the time) [ELR
1:118]; living at Barnstable, England, 2 January 1674/5 [ELR 4:123].

http://www.newenglandancestors.org/research/database/great_migration/F.asp?print=1

The identity of Ralph Fogg's wife as Susan Draper, daughter of Edward
and Susan (Banks) Draper, is proved by the 1630 will of John Banks,
citizen and mercer of London, which bequeaths to "the children of my
sister Susan Draper ...; [To] Susan ffoge the wife of Raffe ffoge, the
daughter of my sister Susan Draper, the sum of fifty pounds and also
to John ffoge her son fifty pounds more" [NEHGR, 47:108-10]. In
another place, the same will mentions "[m]y sister Susan Draper the
wife of Edward Draper, girdler, and her two daughters Susan ffoge and
Mary Draper." Aspinwall's notebook has a 1649 record of Ralph Fogg
attempting to collect on "a legacie given to the sd John ffogg [his
son] by John Bancks mercer deceased" [Aspinwall 270].

http://books.google.com/books?id=Fgg8AAAAIAAJ&pg=PA449&dq=pocock+aspinwall&lr=#PPA270,M1

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1634 (Thomas Coleman)

ORIGIN: Marlborough, Wiltshire
MIGRATION: 1635 of the James of London
FIRST RESIDENCE: Newbury
REMOVES: Hampton 1652, Nantucket 1663

...

CHILDREN:

viii JOHN, b. say 1644; m. by 1667 Joanna Folger (eldest known
child b. Nantucket 2 August 1667; she is stated confidently by all
secondary sources to be daughter of Peter Folger, but the evidence for
this has not been found.)

As a descendant of this marriage, I have to stick up for its
correctness. See _The Papers of Benjamin Franklin_, 3:179, a letter
from Benjamin Franklin (whose mother was the daughter of Peter Folger)
which mentions that "[h]ere are cousins Coleman, and two Folgers, all
well." See also _Papers of Benjamin Franklin_, 10:398, a genealogical
narrative of 1763, apparently written by Franklin's cousin Keziah
Folger Coffin, mentioning that Peter Folger had "[s]even Daughters
namely Johanna married a Coleman Darcas married a Pratt Barsheba
married a Pope," and so forth.

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1634 (Thomas Loring)

MARRIAGE: By about 1625, Jane Newton (see COMMENTS below). She died
on 25 August 1672 [NEHGR 121:192].

...

COMMENTS:

...

The identity of the wife of Thomas Loring supposedly derives from
the journal of Israel Loring, "in which he states that Thomas Loring
married Jane Newton" [Granberry 304], but this statement does not
appear in the journal as published. In his will of 3 April 1646,
"John Newton of Colliton, Devon, chirurgeon," included bequests to
"Anthony, my said son, and Joane, my said daughter, which are now in
New England" [Waters 1040-41], and this daughter Joan is supposed to
have been the wife of Thomas Loring.

As I pointed out previously on the newsgroup, this same Joan or Jane
Newton was claimed as the wife of Benedict Alvord of Connecticut in a
1990's TAG article by Edwin Witter [? exact citation].



I suppose that's probably enough corrections and additions for now!

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