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From: "D. Spencer Hines" <>
Subject: Re: Children of Isabel of England (Died 1241),Wife of Emperor Frederick II
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 22:41:38 -0000
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Indeed...

DSH

"Douglas Richardson" <> wrote in message
news:...

> Matthew Paris refers to the births of two sons, one in 1237 named
> Heinrich, and one in 1238 whose name he does not state. So far I have
> found only contemporary or near contemporary references to a son
> Heinrich born in February 1236 and a daughter born in February 1237.

> There was also evidently a child born in Dec. 1241, at the time Isabel
> of England died in childbirth. This information obviously does not
> match Paris's account.

> This also does not match the information provided by the
> enthusiastic and misinformed poster who has claimed that a son, Jordan,
> was born in 1236. As you are aware, at least one historian has expressed
> serious doubts about the existence of Jordan as the Emperor's child.


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