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Subject: Re: Children of Isabel of England (Died 1241),Wife of Emperor Frederick II
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 16:55:20 EST


In a message dated 1/24/2008 3:40:14 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
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Thanks for that Peter.

My dates on Louis, Langrave of Thuringia and his wife Elizabeth "The
Saint" of Hungary come from

Heraldry of the Royal Families of Europe, Table 89
Jiri Louda and Michael Maclagan. Clarkson N Potter, New York 1981

Where they say Elizabeth was b 1207 and d 1231, while Louis was b 1200
and d 1227

If true, Lizzie was only 20 when Louie died so it gives a fairly
narrow range into which they can have Herman and Sophia, to wit 1221
to 1228 (allowing the possiblity of a posthumous child)

Herman must have made an impression on somebody as he has his own
article here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermann_II,_Landgrave_of_Thuringia
where they repeat 1221 but without inline source

Sophia went on to marry
Henry II, Duke of /Brabant/ (Lower Lorraine) reigned 1235-48

and they had a son
Henry I, Landgrave of /Hesse/

who either d.s.p. or I just didn't trace any line from him forward
yet.

Will Johnson

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Dear Will,
Henry I, Landgrave of Hesse died without issue ?

Flip ahead to Table 107-08 (specifically Table 108 of
the same book. Henry I was the progenitor of the dynasties of Hesse.
Sincerely,
James W Cummings
Dixmont, Maine USA






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