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From: "Peter Stewart" <>
Subject: Re: Children of Isabel of England (Died 1241),Wife of Emperor Frederick II
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 02:16:29 GMT
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"Peter Stewart" <> wrote in message
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> "wjhonson" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> Thanks for that Peter.
>>
>> My dates on Louis, Langrave of Thuringia and his wife Elizabeth "The
>> Saint" of Hungary come from
>>
>> Heraldry of the Royal Families of Europe, Table 89
>> Jiri Louda and Michael Maclagan. Clarkson N Potter, New York 1981
>>
>> Where they say Elizabeth was b 1207 and d 1231, while Louis was b 1200
>> and d 1227
>
> My dates must have come from Isenburg's ES or maybe from Schwennicke's
> first go at the family - in his latest revision, ES neue Folge Band I.1
> (1998), Tafel 145, the following information is given:
>
> Ludwig IV was born on 28 October 1200 and died at Otranto on 11 September
> 1227. In 1221 he married Elisabeth of Hungary who was born in 1207 and
> died at Marburg 16/17 November 1231. Their son Hermann was born at
> Kreuzburg on 28 March 1222 and died there on 3 January 1241 - i.e. nearly
> three months before his 19th birthday.

These dates are taken from a contemporary source - a 13th-century section of
the chronicle of Reinhardsbrunn, where Ludwig and Elisabeth were buried,
places their marriage in 1221 (this is not an original passage but is
confirmed by other sources), and the birth of Hermann on 28 March 1222.

Peter Stewart


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