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From: "D. Spencer Hines" <>
Subject: Re: Henry VIII - to be or not to be
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 03:10:23 +0100
Leo is fronting for his secret admirer and lover again.
Victoria, it just doesn't get any better than this.
D. Spencer Hines
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Vires et Honor
Veni, Vidi, Calcitravi Asinum
"Leo" <> wrote in message
> For genealogical reasons I would like to know whether Henry VIII was the
> father of Mary Boleyn's children. Up until now I have accepted Tony
> Hoskins suggestion.
> However, I have received now two e-mails suggesting that for several
> reasons Tony Hoskins could be wrong. Here is one of the messages I have
> received :
> The famous bastard of Henry was Henry Fitzroy, Duke of Richmond, by
> Elizabeth Blount who was a maid of honour to Catherine of Aragon, proof
> enough of his willingness to acknowledge a bastard by a court lady.
> was given precedence over the Dukes of Norfolk & Buckingham, made Lord
> Admiral and a Knight of the Garter. Others are alleged, I can't recall
> details. Any child of Henry by Mary before she was married could have
> expected similar treatment to Elizabeth Blount's. The degenerate
> shennanigans portrayed in "The Other Boleyn Girl", with children by Henry
> born to Mary as wife of Carey, would have made a scandal like no other in
> English history. The double adultery with all else that Henry was doing to
> English religion would have made his prestige as king untenable with
> better than the likes of Cromwell and Rich - and he could never have
> governed every corner of England without the respectful support of
> better men than them. Henry was not a caricature of self-indulgence &
> willful foolishness at this stage of his life, if ever.
> If only a DNA test was possible.
> With best wishes
> Leo van de Pas,
> Canberra, Australia