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From: "John P. Ravilious" <>
Subject: the Montfichet family of Cargill & c.
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 10:12:25 -0700 (PDT)
Saturday, 25 April, 2009
Dear Pat, Tim, Todd, Chris, et al.,
Some time ago there was discussion on the subject of the Clare
chevrons and the Montfichet family. A question was raised as to
whether the use of chevrons by the Montfichet family was adequate -
let along significant - evidence as to an alleged Montfichet descent
from the de Clare family.
The evidence that Margaret, wife of William de Montfichet, was
not only a daughter of the de Clare family is found in the Rotuli de
Dominabus (1185), where the following is given:
' Margareta de Muntfichet, que fuit filia
Gileberti filii Ricardi de Clara, est de
donatione Domini Regis, et est .lx. annorum
et amplius. Gilebertus de Muntfichet est
ejus filius et heres, et preter eum habuit
.iij. infantes. Terra sua de Barenton valet
.xiij. l.; et si esset bene instaurata,
valeret .xvj. l. ' 
The foregoing proves Margaret's parentage: she was in fact a
daughter of Gilbert fitz Richard, and a sister of Richard de Clare
(lord of Tonbridge) and his younger brother Gilbert, 1st earl of
Pembroke. She was also evidently the namesake of her maternal
grandmother, Margaret de Roucy.
In addition, the 1185 record indicates that she had 3 other
children in addition to Gilbert de Montfichet ('et preter eum
habuit .iij. infantes'). The names of these children are not given,
but I am led to the conclusion that one of these was Richard de
Montfichet, the founder of the family in Scotland. Richard de
Montfichet had a grant of Cargill, co. Perth ca 1165x1195:
' An exemplified copy is preserved in the Perth
charter-chest of a very old charter, by which
William the Lion grants "Richardo Mountfecht"
the lands of "Kergill et praeterea Kincardin,
juxta Strivelyn, cum socca et sacca, cum furca
et fossa, cum thal et them, et infanganthef,"
to be held in free barony for the service of
one knight. ' 
' Ricardo de Munfichet ' was of sufficient rank and regard in
Scotland by 1178 that he was a witness to a charter of that year,
named before Saier de Quincy and Malise, son of the Earl of Strathearn
. ' Ricard' de Mu'ficheth ' was subsequently a witness [together
with "Walt'o olif' . Justic' . Nesso fil' Will'i . Will'o de lyndes' .
Walt' de Berkel' . Ricard' de Mu'ficheth . Joh'e de Lund' "] to a
charter of King William granting a toft outside the burgh of Perth to
Arbroath priory, ca. 1178-1188 .
Thanks to the above mentioned and other documents - with special
thanks to the editors and publishers (original and online) of the
Victoria County History series - I have been able to develop a
pedigree of Montfichet of Cargill, co. Perth from this generation to
that of Mary de Montfichet, heiress of Cargill & c. and the mother of
Annabela Drummond, Robert III's queen. This pedigree is outlined
below, with a more detailed account to come in a following post.
Should anyone have additional relevant documentation, as well as
comment or criticism, that would be most welcome.
Gilbert de Clare = Adeliza de Clermont
d. ca. 1117 I
I I III I
Richard Gilbert <sibs> Margaret = William de
de Clare I Montfichet
d. ca.1189 I d. 1137
Gilbert Richard de Montfichet
of Stansted, of Cargill and Kincardine-
Essex in Menteith
V I Laurence de
d. aft 2 Mar = Dervorguilla
1215 of Galloway
I I I
Richard Sir William Patrick
sheriff of Perth, de Abernethy
I I I
1) Sir Walter = Devorgilla Sir Hugh
d. bef 19 I = 2) David Abernethy
Jan 1261 I Olifard I
I I I I I
William Laurence John Hugh Devorgilla
prob. d. bef. fl. 1287
b. bef 1266; fl. 1287
grantor of lands, 1287
d. bef 28 Aug 1296
Sir William de Montfichet
of Cargill and Auchterarder
b. bef Mar 1290;
forfeited and d. bef 1345
I I I
Mary Devorgilla Margaret
= Sir John
I I I
Sir Malcolm Sir John Annabela = Robert III
Drummond Drummond I K of Scots
 John Walmsley, ed., Widows, Heirs and Heiresses
in the Late Twelfth Century: the Rotuli de
Dominabus et Pueris et Puellis, in Medieval
and Renaissance Texts and Studies, vol. 308
(Tempe: Arizona Center for Medieval and
Renaissance Studies, 2006), p. 126, no. 219.
The extracted text is courtesy Googlebooks.
 The New Statistical Account of Scotland
(Edinburgh: William Blackwood and Sons, 1845),
 Charter of King William granting a tenth of
his 'returns' in Moray to the Bishop of Moray,
witnessed by " Jocelino episcopo Glascuensi .
Matheo episcopo Aberdonensi . comite Dunecano
justiciario . comite Gilleb' de
Stratheren . M . comite Ethol . Jocelino
archidiacono Dunkeldensi . Ricardo de Morauill
constabulario . Waltero Olifard . Ricardo de
Munfichet . Serer de Quincj . Malis filio
comitis Ferteth . Ricardo et Philippo
Marscaldo " [Cosmo Innes, ed., Registrum
Episcopatus Moraviensis (Edinburgh: printed
for the Bannatyne Club, 1837), p. 7, no. 7].
The charter can be dated ca. 1177 x ca 1178:
Joscelin was archdeacon of Dunkeld, 1177-1194,
and Richard de Morville, constable of
Scotland, died in 1189. Walter Olifard
became Justiciar of Lothian ca. 1178, and is
not identified as Justiciar in this charter.
 Cosmo Innes, ed., Liber S. Thome de Aberbrothoc
(Edinburgh: T. Constable, for the Bannatyne
Club, 1848), I:13, no. 10.