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From: "M.Sjostrom" <>
Subject: Documented Ceballos
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 12:44:37 -0700 (PDT)


My reconstruction of the Ceballos family tree, such as I posted it some four days ago:
http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/GEN-MEDIEVAL/2009-07/1249078098


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Todd reconstrues:
"Based on these data, I would place them into a pedigree as
follows:
Rodrigo Gonzalez, fl. 1161
Alvaro Rodriguez, fl 1183
Gonzalo Rodriguez, fl. 1183, 1202
Pedro Gonzalez, fl. 1183
Garcia Gonzalez, fl. 1206
Diego Gonzalez, fl. 1206
(this generation or the next)
Ruy Gonzalez, fl. 1222, m. Teresa Gonzalez de Giron
(One or two generations after Pedro, Garcia and Diego)
Diego Gonzalez, fl. 1249
If Pedro was active in 1183, it is extremely unlikely that a brother
would be active in 1249, hence I think the 1206 and 1249 Diegos are
separated by at least one generation."


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some dates added to my reconstruction:

Rodrigo Gonzalvez de Ceballos (fl 1161).
His sons included:

Gonzalvo Rodriguez de Ceballos (fl 1183, 1202; born est 1160; d aft 1202).
His sons included:

1 [I add: Ruy Gonzalvez de Ceballos (b est 1190s); 1222 married with Teresa Gonzalvez de Autillo]

2 Diego Gonzalvez de Ceballos (fl 1206; b est 1190s; d aft 1249).
His sons included:

Gonzalvo Diaz de Ceballos (b est 1220s), m Antolina (of the Flor)
http://genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00333088&tree=LEO
Their children included:

Rodrigo Gonzalvez de Ceballos (b est 1250s)
http://genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00270538&tree=LEO

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I regard Pedro Gonzalvez as some sort of mistake, or alternatively that he were in 1183 a young child who however was put to documentation, perhaps his daddy had at the time only this (eldest) son.
An adult in 1183, when his grandfather had been the (young) alferez in 1161, is not necessarily fitting to chronology.
Pedro could have been the alferez' brother, and mistakenöy grouped wrong.
The notion that Pedro Gonzalvez, if he were son of that Gonzalvo Rodriguez, would been adult at that time, strikes me as mistaken. Perhaps the document's reading anew would offer some changed understanding about this.

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Milton Rubincam's reconstruction:

1 confuses Rodrigo Gonzalvez with the Giron guy, Rodrigo Guterres, Mayordomo

2 has plausibly: Gonzalo Ruiz de Ceballos, d.1203

3 has plausibly: Ruy Gonzalez de Ceballos m. Teresa Gonzalez Giron, dau. Gonzalo Ruiz Giron

4 has imo mistakenly as son, because should imo be brother of the previous: Diego Gonzalez de Ceballos m. Maria

5 has plausibly: Gonzalo Diaz de Ceballos m. Antolina

6 has plausibly: Ruy Gonzalez de Ceballos m. Maria

7 has plausibly: Diego Gutierrez de Ceballos, d. 1330 m. Juana Garcia Carrillo

8 has plausibly: Elvira Alvarez de Ceballos, m. Fernan Perez de Ayala





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