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From: taf <>
Subject: Re: Countess Sancha Fernandez wife of Count Froila Ramírez
Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 08:33:39 -0700 (PDT)
On Aug 6, 1:58 pm, mara Gonzalez Morejon <>
> On the back of this donation, someone later wrote “Roderos: donation of the
> benefit and “apresentación” of Roderos and the monastery’s properties there…
> by Don Ramiro, son of Count Froilan and grandson of Count Ponce de Minerba”.
> Count Ponce de Minerva and Estefanía Ramírez did have a son called
> Fernando, attested in 1173 when he, Count Fernando Ponce and Countess
> Estafanía Ramírez donated houses, vineyards, and orchards in Allariz
> (Orense) to the Orden de Calatrava. I don't know if and whom he married,
> but if that note on the back of the donation in 1240 is correct, then it
> would seem that Sancha was in fact granddaughter of Count Ponce de Minerva.
Ponce and Estefania Ramirez, herself daughter of an earlier Ramiro
Fruelaz, also had a son Ramiro Ponce, who was alfarez to Fernando II,
and two daughters Sancha, wife of Pedro Garces de Lerma, and Maria,
wife of Galician count Rodrigo Alvarez.
(The Ponces, Minerva and Cabrera, were discussed by Simon Barton, "Two
Catalan magnates in the courts if the kings of Leon-Castile: the
careers of Ponce de Cabrera and Ponce de Minerva re-examined", Journal
of Medieval History, 18:233-66, )