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From: John <>
Subject: Re: those Butlers again
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 22:19:57 -0700 (PDT)
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On Mar 22, 3:12 pm, wrote:
> In a message dated 3/21/2010 8:00:08 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
>
> writes:
> > Thank you for clearing this up! This gives my William descents from
> > Butler of Mountgarret & from the Viscount Galmoye as well as Piers
> > FitzThomas Butler. That is much more fun to study than the Archdeacon
> > of Waterford. As for the second question, I'm surprised that the
> > "tradition" was even published. I looked, belatedly, at the SGM
> > archives & found that the exact question came up in the past, but was
> > left unanswered. Thanks again, Bronwen
>
> You had mentioned Elizabeth Butler who is stated to have married in 1788 to
> Thomas McLaughlin.
> If that year of marriage is correct I'd be quite surprised if she were not
> also by the first wife who was yet living in 1775.
>
> Will

Will is probably correct with respect to the maternity of Elizabeth
Butler, which would agree with that of her brother William (Bronwen's
ancestor). But it's worth remembering that presently the only
evidence for allocating the children of Theobald ("Big Toby") between
his two wives is the statement in the 1976 BIFR that the first wife
Bridget Butler d. shortly after 1774. It would useful to know how
this approximate death date was arrived at, and the date of the 2nd
marriage would certainly also be useful to know.

At any rate, Bronwen certainly has some rich ancestry in both of these
Butler lines. According to my data, Bronwen's ancestor William Butler
(d. 1812) has 27 lines of descent from Edward I and 143 from Geoffrey
Plantagenet. Not bad!!


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