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From: M Sjostrom <>
Subject: those Butlers again
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 07:22:12 +0200


according to
GD22/1/54
there is:
Discharge by Jon Grahame [Graham] to John Drummond of Wester and
Middle Myes, of the sum of 1900 merks Scots in part payment of a debt
of 2000 merks Scots.
dated on 12th November 1659

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this means that already in 1659, John Drummond held western and middle Mye
(Myes),
and that those would therefore not be coming to Drummond only as result of a
marriage contracted in 1673

Middle Mye was tack of John Drummond already in 1659, thusly when his bride
Christiana Graham received the right to liferent of Middle Mye in 1673, ny
sense tells that it was her bridegroom John Drummond who gave it - and not
any William Graham, who was merely father in that
- nor any Sir William in 1679 who was merely 'overlord'

The meaning of the 1679 document appeas to be just a confirmation or
renewal,
and because noth John Drummond and his wife Christiana, already be earlier
transactions held rights to Middle Mye, this is NOTHING to do with
Christiana's dowry.

The 1679 document, anything there done by Sir William, cannot be concluded
to be done as father of Christiana, but as overlord of the land which this
couple had already earlier acquired.
so, the worth of the 1679 document as testimony of Christiana's parentage is
nil. zero. zilch.

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a man, John Drummond, is adult already in 1659.
Really, he then getting to marry a daughter of a marriage which started only
in 1663....
sounds a bullshittish idea.

If he waits for bride who was born in 1664 or after, then he would be
ancient himself at the time of producing kids.

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