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From: "John P. Ravilious" <>
Subject: Re: Continued Kynaston ascent of Sarah Ferguson, Duchess of York
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2010 19:05:20 -0700 (PDT)
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On Aug 3, 6:44 pm, wjhonson <> wrote:
> On Leo's great website herehttp://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00252265&tree=LEO
>
> we see that Ursula Matthews "sole heiress of her father" who married
> John Bridgeman, Knt and 3rd Bnt bringing Blodwell, Shropshire to her
> husband
>
> Leo is not showing her ancestry.
> We can however by examining how she obtained Blodwell.
>
> Ursula was the daughter of Roger Matthews by his wife Sina Kyffin.
> Roger as "Gent" and as "son and heir of Robert" of Blodwell, matric
> 1660, giving us an excellent clue that many people have muffed it,
> "Roger" and "Robert" no doubt being too similar and leading to
> confusion.
>
> There's no reason to assume that he is the same person admit Gray's
> Inn 1680, in fact it seems more likely that this "Robert" was Roger's
> son, and d.v.p. or at least d.s.p. whereupon Ursula became his "sole
> SURVIVING heiress" or something of that sort.
>
> Sina Kyffin was the daughter and Watkin Kyffin of Glascoed
>
> Although Roger is called Gent in 1660, he is eventually called esq.
> His parents were Robert Matthews of Blodwell, co Salop by his wife
> Ursula Kynaston. They married 25 Oct 1634 Hordley, Shropshire per a
> Patron Sheet submit to the IGI.
>
> I'm willing to accept that tentatively as at least reasonable, as
> Robert Matthews was "Aged 20" in 1623 and Ursula Kynaston is known to
> have been baptised 10 Dec 1609 Condover, Shropshire (Batch P008831 wj)
> showing that she was the sister of Roger Kynaston of Hordley who was
> Sheriff in 1640 and also baptised in that same place in 1611.
>
> Robert's parents were John /Matthews/ of Harnage Court; and of
> Blodwell j.u. and his wife Jane /Tanat/ of Blodwell, Salop (as
> heiress)
>
> Jane inherited Blodwell from her father, but I'm not certain that
> Tanat is actually a surname, or whether it might be a title of some
> sort.

================= SNIP ====================


Dear Will,

Tannat is the name of a large stream (at least formerly....?) in
Shropshire, which gave its name to a location (Abertanat, 'mouth of
the Tannat') and a family, spelled variously Tannat, Tannatt, etc.
Somewhat more recently Edmund Tannatt migrated to Georgia, married a
kinswoman of mine (Elizabeth Crooke) and d. before 26 Jan 1763 when
his will was proved in Georgia. Many descendants (surnames Houstoun,
Thomson &c.) including the well-known Sir Tannatt William Edgeworth
David.

Of greater interest for your purposes is the pedigree of Tanatt
of Abertanat and Blodwell (Vis. of Shropshire, 1623 - URL given below)
which shows 'Jana Tanatt' as the wife of 'Joh[ann]is Mathewes de
Blodwell a[nn]o 1623', and daughter and coheir of Maurice Tanatt by
his wife Margaret ferch Thomas Owen. The generations are extended
back several generations, including an additiaonl Kynaston marriage.
If the marriages/spouses shown can be confirmed, there are several
ancestral references which likely can be traced back via the Welsh
pedigrees in Bartrum.

URL
http://books.google.com/books?id=HC8EAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA457&dq=tannat+shropshire&hl=en&ei=NMRYTMu_CcmUnQef0LTNCA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=4&ved=0CDUQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q&f=false

Hope this is of interest.

Cheers,

John




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>
> This family goes back many generations, but I have to leave them aside
> for the moment to go back to the Kynastons.
>
> This is because I recognize the parents of Ursula, having worked on
> this family many years ago.  Ursula's mother Mary Owen is a Cecil 5,
> being the sister of that William Owen of Condover who married secondly
> Lettice Bagot a third generation descendent of Richard Cecil.
>
> The Owen family goes back several generations, at least to the time of
> Edward I,  but I don't know of any royal blood there.
>
> However Mary Owen's husband Edward Kynaston of Hordley, Shropshire
> (died 1630) was the son of Roger Kynaston by his wife Margaret
> Vaughan.
>
> Roger was the son of Edward Kynaston by his wife Margaret Lloyd
> Edward was the son of Humphrey Kynaston by his wife Elizabeth verch /
> Meredudd/
> Humphrey was the son of Roger /Kynaston/ of Hordley and Middle; Knt by
> his wife Elizabeth /Grey/ a third generation descendent  of King Henry
> IV of England
>
> Will Johnson


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