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Subject: Re: Owen Glendower's father in law
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 06:11:09 -0400
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The arms and pedigree of the Hanmer family is given in Dwnn, Vol II, p.310-314. The childern of Owain Glyndwr are given in Dwnn, Vol. I, p.334. The name Hanmer is of Saxon origin, with their settled area being Han-mer meaning "on the lake" ( A-sax. an=on, mer=lake or pool) The family took the name from this settlement which is 4 miles SE Bangor-is-y-coed. Sir John de Macclesfield married Hawys of Hanmer and he took the name Hanmer from the wife's family. (see Burke p.453) Extensive family records are found in "A Collection of deeds and papers relating to the Hanmer family of Pentrepant", Catalogue reference 894 and 1144, Shropshire Archives.

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Subject: Re: Owen Glendower's father in law

On Oct 18, 2:50 am, "Leo" <> wrote:
I looked in Burke's Guide to the Royal family to see how many children he had.
did not find any, but "see BP Hanmer Bt".

Owen Glendower was married to Margaret Hanmer, daughter of Sir David Hanmer.

Sir David's details are sketchy and a bit confusing, amongst the descriptions
e are told he was knighted in 1387, but he died b y 22 July 1387 (possibly by
une 1386).

Does anyone know any better details about him? He is an ancestor of Prince

With many thanks
Leo van de Pas
Canberra, Australia
Hello Leo,
ou can find the following, and a bit more, at the 'National Library
f Wales' website, Dictionary of Welsh Biography, subj. Hanmer family.
om Dunn, Kilbrittain, Co. Cork, Ireland
Sir David Hanmer (d.c. 1388), became a justice of the king's bench in
383 and was knighted in 1387. He m. Agnes (or Angharad), d/o Llyweln
du ap Gruffydd ap Iorwerth.
heir dau. Margaret m. Owain Glyn Dwr.
son Griffith married into the Tudor family, of Penmynydd.
son Philip, who who was in Paris c. 1415, seeking support for the
son John who received the forfeited lands of his two brothers,
arried a local heiress.

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