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From: Alex Maxwell Findlater <>
Subject: Re: Husband of Adelisa de Vere
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 00:58:33 -0800 (PST)
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Round in his Appendix to Geoffrey de Mandeville points this out and
deduces that Robert of Essex must have been Robert of Essex's
(FitzSwein's) son, as one man could not have left two widows.

DD is doubtless based on this.

I have just noticed (CP ix p578 note (c)) that Gunora, widow of Robert
FitzSwein was the daughter of Roger le Bigod and Adeliza daughter of
Robert de Tosny of Belvoir, from whom the Claverings were themselves
descended in the male line. This would put them in the second degree
of consanguinuity, which seems somewhat close. Has anyone done any
work on this? Or was the second degree at this very early period
considered acceptable?

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