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From: "James R. Yeowell" <>
Subject: Re: More on the Ur Mother: Isabel (or Elizabeth) de Vermandois
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 23:40:11 -0700 (PDT)
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I have at least 25 descents from Isabel de Vermandois (although at least 2 are flagged up as questionable and some others may also be incorrect or questionable).

The first one that comes up, is the following (not the shortest descent, however). Do correct any mistakes.

Isabel de Vermandois
Ada de Warenne
Margaret, Countess of Hereford
Henry de Bohun, Earl of Hereford, Constable of England
Humphrey de Bohun, 2nd Earl of Hereford
Sir Humphrey de Bohun
Alianore de Bohun
John de Ferrers, Lord of Chartley
Robert de Ferrers, 3rd Lord of Chartley
John de Ferrers, 4th Lord of Chartley
Robert de Ferrers, 5th Lord of Chartley
Sir Edward Ferrers, 6th Lord of Chartley
Sir William Ferrers, 7th Lord of Chartley
Anne Ferrers
Elizabeth Devereux
Sir Robert Corbet
Jane Corbet
Richard Lee, of Langley, Shropshire
Catherine Lee
Richard Hereford, of Sufton Court
Roger Hereford, of Sufton Court
James Hereford, of Sufton Court
Anne Hereford
Rev. Thomas Broade, M.A., rector of Benefield, Northamptonshire
Anne Broade
Thomas Lodington
Thomas Lodington
Ens. Thomas Edward Lodington
Beverley Purton Edwards Lodington, alias Edwards
Mary Edwards

Then through to me via the Hold family, amongst others.

A slightly different descent is the same as above, until:

Roger Hereford, of Sufton Court
Margery Hereford
Rev. Francis Broade, M.A., prebendary of Hereford
Rev. Thomas Broade, M.A. rector of Benefield

Then the same as above.

I have several other lines from her, via the the Hastings and Harcourt family. Plus another through Vesci/Vesey and the Vernons. Plus another through the Beaumonts, Clares, Marshals, Bigods, Lacy, de Genevilles, Mortimers, Audleys, Tuchets, Baskervilles, Vaughans, Scuadmores, Warnecombes, Kyrles and Holmes.

The line I mentioned that has been flagged up as potentially troublesome is via the Pershall/Peshall family. I know I am descended from a member of this family but I am uncertain as to how exactly the lady in question fits in. I shall have to do further research here.

As you can see, my gateway ancestor(s) are the Broades and the Herefords (via the Lodington family).

I am still researching of some these lines as well, so I might well be able to add more descents via Isabel de Vermandois in due course.

Unlike most on this board, I do not have any migrant ancestors.

Anyhow, as I said, if you find errors in the above (which I have only supplied a descent from, with no dates or spouse details), do let me know and I shall be pleased to edit my data accordingly.

Best regards,

James R. Yeowell.


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