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From: Johnny Brananas <>
Subject: Re: More on the Ur Mother: Isabel (or Elizabeth) de Vermandois
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 12:52:04 -0700 (PDT)
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There may be something on this in _The Ricardian_ for 2002:

"... for Loveden to Ashton's house', and on the same day the
deposition of Thomas White recorded Loveden's presence in Southampton
prior to Ashton's departure for France. Katherine Ashton, however,
was not to forget Loveden's treachery. In 1565, together with her new
husband, Robert Temple, she brought a bill of complaint against him in
an attempt to recover some of ..."

Cuthbert Temple in association with Thomas White and Ashton and
Dudley:

http://books.google.com/books?id=EWQtAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA234&dq=%22cuthbert+temple%22+%22thomas+white%22&hl=en&ei=pAerTuuFOIjBtgfuy6ztDg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CDUQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=%22cuthbert%20temple%22%20%22thomas%20white%22&f=false

> My bad.  It was Robert Temple, the father of Cuthbert, who married
> Katherine Asheton.  The exact quote is (p. 10, fn. 16) ... "His
> Northmoor land was lost in a law suit late in 1568 to St. John's
> College, Oxford (Muniments, Group XV).  Their deeds name an otherwise
> unknown second wife of Robert Temple:  Katherine, widow of Christopher
> Assheton."



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