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------------------------------ GEN-NEWBIE-D DigestVolume 96 : Issue 35 Today's Topics: Re: One-name study advice request... [ (judith murphy) ] Re: Cleaning Keyboards [ Patricia Tidmarsh < ] Re: surname lists [ Carl Eddy < ] Re: SSDI clarification [ Nick Melhinch <> ] Re: One-name study advice request... [ ] Reposte re Power Outages Re: GEN-NEW [ James D Freeman < ] Library of Congress [ Mary <> ] FWD: SSDI clarification [ ] BOLIN, BOLAN, BOWLIN, etc. [ ] LIST [ "DARRELL HADDOCK" < ] Re: Cleaning Keyboards [ "T & E Sheehan" <> ] Apology - Signature Lines/Folders [ (Harriette Jensen ] Trees [ Virginia Eiban < ] Re: Cleaning Keyboards [ tom <> ] Re: E-Mail Abbreviations [ P J Rowell <> ] Re: GEDCOMs at the FHCs [ ] Re: Cleaning Keyboards [ ] Re: Genealogy Program and intermarri [ ] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Dec 1996 12:30:54 -0500 (EST) From: (judith murphy) Subject: Re: One-name study advice request... To get to the internet's main page of the Library of Congress go to: http://www.loc.gov/ or http://lcweb.loc.gov Now to get the listings of the family histories you need to be using either telnet or TCP/IP TN3270 -- you go to the locis area: telnet://locis.loc.gov:23/ or 140.147.254.3 gopher gets you there too: gopher://marvel.loc.gov/ Once you get into the LOCIS online searching area get so you can do a query and ask for family history Then you will have to use the marvel / locis type of commands (read up on these through the www address first) it would be something like: browse genealogy or browse Sandage (where Sandage is the surname you want to look through) you could be using other commands like if the list shows B06 as the one you want to look at the command would be Browse B06 other commands could be like these: display sets browse sets display # (where # is line number you want to see) # (display #, browse #, and # all give different results) display item 646 (where 646 is the family name line) Like I mentioned, go to the www site first and read up on these commands and what they do. If you do not have telnet or TN3270 through your ISP (internet service provider) go to your public library -- most of the larger ones and many of the smaller ones are hooked into the Locis / Marvel system -- and they use the same commands. Hope this helps some (confusing I know -- especially if you have never used this TCP/IP software before -- but it is well worth the time to learn, etc). Here is a little sample of the kind of things I captured when I was doing some of my search through the family histories -- so you get an idea of what you will be getting: browse family history B01 Family fun//(XREF=1) B01 Family group therapy//(XREF=1) B02 Family heads//(XREF=1) B03 Family health//(XREF=1) B04 Family Health Maintenance Demonstration//(SUBJ=1) B05 Family histories//(SUBJ=1) B06+Family history//(XREF=1) B07 Family home evenings (Mormon Church)//(SUBJ=1) B08 Family in art//(SUBJ=1) B09 Family in dreams//(SUBJ=1) B10 Family in literature//(SUBJ=1) B11 Family in mass media//(SUBJ=1) B12 Family in motion pictures//(SUBJ=1) s b6-b7 SET 1 1: SLCT SUBJ/Family histories SET 2 1: SLCT XREF/Family history RETR FAMILY SEARCH RESULTS: SET# ITEMS WITH THE WORDS OR TERMS ---- ----- ----------------------- 5 42,090 FAMILY ---EXAMPLES: display (DISPLAYs the set created by RETRIEVE) help display (gives more info about DISPLAY command) OTHER COMMANDS: help browse retrieve select combine limit history end READY: display ITEMS 1-7 OF 42,090 SET 5: BRIEF DISPLAY FILE: LCXR (ASCENDING ORDER) 1. Aabel family (SUBJECT HEADING) SH85-26 2. Aamand family (SUBJECT HEADING) SH85-27 3. Aarestrup family (SUBJECT HEADING) SH85-29 4. Aaroen family (SUBJECT HEADING) SH85-32 5. Aaron family (SUBJECT HEADING) SH85-33 6. Aaronson family (SUBJECT HEADING) SH85-36 7. Aarup family (SUBJECT HEADING) SH85-37 8. Abbey family (SUBJECT HEADING) SH85-63 9. Abbott family (SUBJECT HEADING) SH85-71 ... display item 646 SH85-15364 ITEM 646 OF 42,090 IN SET 5 (LCXR) Bolen *FAMILY* Used for: Bohlen *FAMILY* Bolan *FAMILY* Boland *FAMILY* Boleyn *FAMILY* Boleyne *FAMILY* Bolin *FAMILY* Boling *FAMILY* Bollen *FAMILY* Bolling *FAMILY* Bowlan *FAMILY* Bowland *FAMILY* Bowlen *FAMILY* Bowlin *FAMILY* Bowline *FAMILY* Bowling *FAMILY* Bulin *FAMILY* READY: browse b06 To choose from list, see examples at bottom. FILE: LCXR Terms alphabetically close to:Standage family B01 Stance family//(XREF=1) B02 Stanchfield family//(XREF=1) B03 Stand-pipes//(XREF=1) B04 Stand-up comedy//(SUBJ=1) B05 Standaert family//(XREF=1) B06+Standage family//(XREF=1) B07 Standard Address Number//(SUBJ=1) B08 Standard atmosphere//(SUBJ=1) B09 Standard Automated Financial System (Information r//(XREF=1) B10 Standard automobile//(SUBJ=1) B11 Standard book numbers, Publishers'//(XREF=1) B12 Standard cells//(SUBJ=1) SEARCH RESULTS: SET# ITEMS WITH THE WORDS OR TERMS ---- ----- ----------------------- 14 4 Standage family READY: display 14 ITEMS 1-4 OF 4 SET 14: BRIEF DISPLAY FILE: LCXR (ASCENDING ORDER) 1. Standish family (SUBJECT HEADING) SH85-127323 2. Standing family (SUBJECT HEADING) SH89-1469 3. Standage family XR00-174156 USE: Standish family 4. Standly family XR00-174202 USE: Stanley family (you can then check these sets and it will tell who wrote book, date, book title, etc.) Judy M. > >Judith would you be kind enought to post the URL of the U.S. Library of >Congress list. TIA >Alice >======================================= >In article <587v4k$> >(judith murphy) writes: >> >>Many persons who have undertaken the one-name, etc usually start >by checking >>the books that have been written about anyone by that surname. The >public >>libraries are good starts for this; but I strongly recommend the >Library of >>Congress' online for checking of family histories that have already been >>done as well as books about families by that name. There was a book >I saw >>once showing family histories that had already been done, but don't >recall >>it being ANYTHING as large or as complete as the Library of Congress' >list. ><snip> > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Dec 1996 13:24:37 -0500 (EST) From: Patricia Tidmarsh <> Subject: Re: Cleaning Keyboards So what did you end up doing? We would lke to know too? Thanks. Patricia ------------------------------ Date: 08 Dec 96 13:31:24 EST From: Carl Eddy <> Subject: Re: surname lists The GEN-LIST file at MAISER is no longer used. Because the files had grown so large, they are now split into the 5 files below. LIST1.TXT General interest files; non-genealogy LIST2.TXT Genealogy files but not family (e.g., state lists) LIST3.TXT Family files; families A - E (first letter of last name) LIST4.TXT Family files; families F - N (first letter of last name) LIST5.TXT Family files; families O - Z (first letter of last name) Send for them by sending a message to Leave subject area blank and place your first SEND command on the first line of the message section. SEND LIST1.TXT SEND LIST5.TXT You may send for more than one at once, one per line, with no empty lines between them (as shown above). Also, do not use signature line. YOU MUST SPELL THE FILE NAME EXACTLY AS SHOWN HERE: LIST3.TXT is not the same as List-3.text! Also, when you subscribe to a list; be SURE to keep a copy of the instruction file that the listserver sends you. It contains all of the helpful info for your future communications back to it as well as to list members. Good luck, Carl ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Dec 1996 13:07:31 -0800 From: Nick Melhinch <> Subject: Re: SSDI clarification French German Celtic Knot wrote: > > The cost of the SS-5 is $7.00 IF YOU GIVE THEM THE SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER. > > I'm told that you can still get the form without having the SSN, but in that > case it costs something like $16.00. > > --slc > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > Sharon L. Casteel > > Now is the winter of our influenza > made glorious summer by this anamorphosis of amoxicillin. --Jan Six If you get a form SSA-L997 (2-83) from your SS office and fill it out with the info and put down that the person is deceased, with a copy of death cert. or copy from the SSI index showing them dead, mail it to address on form, it won't cost but the postage!!! I have done this several times for ones I wanted. Nick -- NICK MELHINCH, 452 US HWY. 224 SULLIVAN, OH, 44880; mailto: PAF UTILITIES AT: http://www.genealogy.org/~paf/ FIND HELP AT: http://members.gnn.com/mikerice/helplist.htm LOOKUPS ON CD's: http://www.seidata.com/~lhoffman/cdlist.html OHIO PAGE: http://www.netwalk.com/~coliver/ohio/ SEARCHING IN NEW YORK: MELHINCH; HELMER; WALTERS; AUBRY-O'BERA-AUBREY; ARMSTRONG; SPRING; NICHOLS. IN MASSACHUSETTS: UPHAM; JENKINS; FLOYD. IN CONNECTICUT: NICHOLS; SMITH; WOOD. IN VERMONT: AUBRY - AUBERA - OBERA. IN WISCONSIN: HOLLIS; FRANCIS. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Dec 1996 14:55:01 -0500 From: Subject: Re: One-name study advice request... I read your responce in GEN-NEWBIE-L on how to get to Library of Congress and saw some of your search samples. Could hardly believe it there were some of the names I've been looking for.BOLIN, BOLEN, ETC. Could you tell me what BOLIN yout searching. I'm real new , just getting started and need any help I can find. I hope its ok to e-mail with this. Thanks. Please e-mail me at ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Dec 1996 02:51:49 -0600 From: James D Freeman <> Subject: Reposte re Power Outages Re: GEN-NEWBIE-D Digest V96 #34 Greetings all: I would submit that there is a better way to protect your expensive computer electronics while working and that is by simply installing a UPS(Universal Power Supply) between the utility company power source and the computer system. Place an AC strip on the output of the UPS which provides jacks for your modem and plugs for the computer system. This way all of the electronics and the modem line is "isolated" from virtually all electromagnetic emanations that might be created on the utility lines, such as emf coupling from lightening strokes, etc. As long as you have power reserves in the UPS and the telephone line is up you can communicate during storms(baring of course a downed line or an ISP outage). This is subject to the capacity of the UPS of course if primary power is disrupted then you still have a few minutes to shut down your system in and orderly fashion. In the area that I live in we have frequent storms and I am able to work without any problems using the system configuration described above. I hope that this helps. Good rooting! Jimf >Date: Sun, 8 Dec 1996 01:28:42 -0500 (EST) >From: Patty Treacy <> >Subject: Re: Genealogy Program and intermarried lines > >Harriet, > > I don't have an answer to your question about a Genealogy Program >but I do know that in a lightning storm, a surge protector will not save >your computer or modem if that electrical line is hit. Always, always, >unplug your computer _AND_ your telephone line which leads to your modem and >computer if there is a storm. If, I think there is a bad storm brewing, I >will always unplug the entire unit. I will unplug it when I leave the house >and there are storm warnings on the weather forecast and I definitely unplug >when I go on vacation. I live in the lightning capitol of the world and I am >naturally a little nervous about lightning. > >Pat >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >----------- >Genealogists don't die, they just lose their census. * >****************************************************** >Researching:CHELF(PA,VA,KY,GER) > BOLLIGER,(OH,W.VA,Switzerland) > HALL,(IN) > TREACY,(IN,KY,Ireland) > WILLIS, (KY,MO) >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >----------- > >------------------------------ > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Dec 1996 11:25:28 -0900 From: Mary <> Subject: Library of Congress I am enjoying this Newbie mail list. You are filling in my big gaps of knowledge....but I have a burning question.....actually I have two.... 1. After you access the Library of Congress and get information you are interested in, what do you do with the information? Especially if you are not next door. Can you get the stuff through inter library exchange? 2. I thought I subscribed to this list in the digest mode. I got the first couple of days that way but now I am very definately in the single mail mode. Help.....get me to digest! PS This is an example of signatures. I use Netscape. If I don't want to use my signature, I just block it and delete it. -- Mary Jefferson Juneau, Alaska Maternal: Hagedorn, Johnson, Luttrell/Luterell, Renfro Paternal: Aldis, Allen, Clark, Draper, Hogg, Hogue, Robinson ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Dec 1996 15:36:19 -0600 From: Subject: FWD: SSDI clarification Thought I would share this with the list. Nick wrote me, too, but his was one I forgot! At only the cost of postage I don't know how in the world I could forget it! Sorry, Nick. And thanks. Nick wrote to Sharon (and me): > > >If you get a form SSA-L997 (2-83) from your SS office and fill it out >with the info and put down that the person is deceased, with a copy of >death cert. or copy from the SSI index showing them dead, mail it to >address on form, it won't cost but the postage!!! I have done this >several times for ones I wanted. >Nick > >-- > > >NICK MELHINCH, 452 US HWY. 224 SULLIVAN, OH, 44880; >mailto: > >PAF UTILITIES AT: http://www.genealogy.org/~paf/ > >FIND HELP AT: http://members.gnn.com/mikerice/helplist.htm > >LOOKUPS ON CD's: http://www.seidata.com/~lhoffman/cdlist.html > >OHIO PAGE: http://www.netwalk.com/~coliver/ohio/ > > SEARCHING > > IN NEW YORK: MELHINCH; HELMER; WALTERS; AUBRY-O'BERA-AUBREY; ARMSTRONG; > SPRING; NICHOLS. IN MASSACHUSETTS: UPHAM; JENKINS; FLOYD. > IN CONNECTICUT: NICHOLS; SMITH; WOOD. IN VERMONT: AUBRY - AUBERA - >OBERA. > IN WISCONSIN: HOLLIS; FRANCIS. > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Dec 1996 16:06:51 -0500 From: Subject: BOLIN, BOLAN, BOWLIN, etc. I tried to send this message to and its bounced back. So don't know how to contact her. Can you help. I'm real new! I saw your responce in GEN-NEWBIE-L on how to get to Library of Congress and saw some of your search samples. Could hardly believe it there were some of the names I've been looking for.BOLIN, BOLEN, ETC. Could you tell me what BOLIN yout searching. I'm real new , just getting started and need any help I can find. I hope its ok to e-mail with this. Thanks. Please e-mail me at ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Dec 96 20:33:53 UT From: "DARRELL HADDOCK" <> Subject: LIST SURNAME IS HADDOCK ANY HELP WILL BE GREATLY APPRECIATED THANKS DARRELL HADDOCK ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Dec 1996 15:52:06 -0500 From: "T & E Sheehan" <> Subject: Re: Cleaning Keyboards > Can someone help? My sister e-mailed me and said that our nephew had spilled Coke on her keyboard and she does not know how to clean it. Some of the keys are sticking. I had heard that you could give them a shower?? It is a Compaq PC. I give several a good cleaning every week, heres what I do: You will need: - some iso alcohol (used for cleaning electronics) - some cotton swabs. - a cross tip screwdriver - 2 small buckets 1. Take apart the keyboard case (should be 4 screws on the bottom side), Then take off the keys and lay them out on a towel in order (be careful not to force them off too hard or you might end up breaking the cross joint used to keep them in place). 2. Take the dipped cotton swabs and clean around the key switch, make sure you also press the switched down to ensure they move and the syrup did not clog the switch movement. 3. Take the dipped cotton swabs and swab down as much of the exposed keyboard card as possible. 4. Take the keys and one by one dip them in a warm soap-water solution and wipe clean. 5. Then take the keys and dip them in a warm clear water solution to get the soap off them. 6. Place them back on the towel in order and let them sit for 4-6 hours to ensure complete dryness. (This is important because like any other card in the computer, the keyboard is also an electronic card with electricity running through it). 7. Wipe down with a damp towel the exterior of the keyboard case to get up the excess coke that might still be on it. 8. Reassemble the keyboard case and re-attach the keys 1 by one and ensure you do not force them on the switch or damage might occur to the switch or cross joint. That should do it for you, if you have any problems just give me a holler. Timm Sheehan ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Dec 1996 15:25:21 -0800 From: (Harriette Jensen) Subject: Apology - Signature Lines/Folders A very big SORRY for leaving the signature line on my previous message. I thought I had turned it off. I had also blown it big time(TWO errors in each address)when I revised it. I must have been asleep. But, for those who were interested in accessing my USGENWEB pages or the HOISINGTON mailing list, the correct addresses are: http://www.rootsweb.com/~okkay/okkay.htm Kay County OK http://www.rootsweb.com/~oklogan/oklogan.htm Logan County OK http://www.rootsweb.com/~kssumner/kssumner.htm Sumner County KS The HOISINGTON mailing list address will be available in a couple of days. E-mail me privately if you want to be put on the subscriber list. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Dec 1996 16:36:17 +0000 From: Virginia Eiban <> Subject: Trees Being very new at this, I would like to know if in your family trees you list everyone, including brothers and sisters and their spouses of people who have married into your family? Or do you just include blood relatives? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Dec 1996 18:44:23 -0500 From: tom <> Subject: Re: Cleaning Keyboards T & E Sheehan wrote: > > > Can someone help? My sister e-mailed me and said that our nephew had > spilled Coke on her keyboard and she does not know how to clean it. Some > of the keys are sticking. I had heard that you could give them a shower?? > It is a Compaq PC. > > I give several a good cleaning every week, heres what I do: > You will need: > - some iso alcohol (used for cleaning electronics) > - some cotton swabs. > - a cross tip screwdriver > - 2 small buckets > > 1. Take apart the keyboard case (should be 4 screws on the bottom side), > Then take off the keys and lay them out on a towel in order (be careful not > to force them off too hard or you might end up breaking the cross joint > used to keep them in place). > 2. Take the dipped cotton swabs and clean around the key switch, make sure > you also press the switched down to ensure they move and the syrup did not > clog the switch movement. > 3. Take the dipped cotton swabs and swab down as much of the exposed > keyboard card as possible. > 4. Take the keys and one by one dip them in a warm soap-water solution and > wipe clean. > 5. Then take the keys and dip them in a warm clear water solution to get > the soap off them. > 6. Place them back on the towel in order and let them sit for 4-6 hours to > ensure complete dryness. (This is important because like any other card in > the computer, the keyboard is also an electronic card with electricity > running through it). > 7. Wipe down with a damp towel the exterior of the keyboard case to get up > the excess coke that might still be on it. > 8. Reassemble the keyboard case and re-attach the keys 1 by one and ensure > you do not force them on the switch or damage might occur to the switch or > cross joint. > > That should do it for you, if you have any problems just give me a holler. > > Timm Sheehan > if all else fails new keyboards are ~$10. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Dec 1996 16:30:27 -0800 (PST) From: P J Rowell <> Subject: Re: E-Mail Abbreviations Many thanks to those of you who took the time to respond to my query about abbreviations used in E-mail messages. Especially grateful for the long list of the more common ones from *Judith.* Happy Holidays to all, Patricia ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Dec 1996 20:13:21 -0500 From: Subject: Re: GEDCOMs at the FHCs In a message dated 96-12-08 12:47:23 EST, you write: << The FHC can change the set up to the number of generations on Ancestral File, >> How can I find out where the nearest FHC location might be. I'm in Columbus Ohio and would like to check them out. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Dec 1996 20:13:16 -0500 From: Subject: Re: Cleaning Keyboards Yes, it is possible to clean a keyboard using a shower... if it hasn't dried too much. I would shower it well, hang it by one end and if possible, get a bottle of distilled water and give it a final rinse with the distilled. After all that, hang it by one end for a day or two to dry. Its about a 75% chance that you can recover the keyboard. From the sound, it may not be too bad and is recoverable if just a few keys are sticking. Goood luck. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Dec 1996 20:13:13 -0500 From: Subject: Re: Genealogy Program and intermarried lines In a message dated 96-12-07 23:06:19 EST, you write: << Many computers don't like the .html but will accept the .htm Don't ask me why -- just something I found using different servers and different types of computers. >> Its more a case of the operating system. DOS and Windows will only accept a 3 character extension. Mac doesn't care and will use just about anything you give it. I don't know much about the other operating systems, but with DOS you are limited to 3 characters. Yes, removing the L from HTML will suffice and DOS/Windows should read it just fine then.