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Subject: GEN-NEWBIE-D Digest V97 #91
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GEN-NEWBIE-D DigestVolume 97 : Issue 91
Today's Topics:
#1 http addresses ["Walter Koontz" <]
#2 Ames, Stueben Co. NY []
#3 Re: GEN-NEWBIE-D Digest V97 #86 [ (olivierBarba]
#4 JERVIS-HASLAM []
#5 Re: GEN-NEWBIE-D Digest V97 #86 [Beth Sloan <>]
#6 CHILDREN IN 1880 CENSUS []
#7 Re: GEN-NEWBIE-D Digest V97 #89 []
#8 URL's and Vital Records web address ["David L. Schmutz" <]
#9 Re: Genealogy Program [ (Lorretta ]
#10 Re: DALNET #Genealogy-Help []
#11 Software used be members ["Sue B." <>]
#12 Unidentified subject! [patricia blevins <]
#13 Re: Software used be members [Dave Bardue <>]
#14 Scanner [Edward Hall <]
#15 Re: CHILDREN IN 1880 CENSUS [ (judith murphy)]
#16 Re: Scanner [Jim Moore <>]
#17 Re: Subscribe (Search for biologica ["Robert B. Seymour" <bobcmo*uni@un]
#18 Re: Unidentified subject! []
#19 Re: Software used be members [ (judith murphy)]
#20 Genealogy Programs []
#21 1880 Federal Census-Family Search []
#22 Re: COE FAMILY [Geri Kanner <>]
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X-Message: #1
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 07:20:52 -0800
From: "Walter Koontz" <>
Subject: http addresses
Thanks so much everyone for helping me. To clarify for anybody else who
needs the info ,these addresses should be typed in at top of screen then
type "enter". Thanks ! Joyce
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X-Message: #2
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 10:33:24 -0500 (EST)
From:
Subject: Ames, Stueben Co. NY
Is there such a place? I promised I would check on Internet for a friend at
LDS and my mapping search didn't find it. Hope some here can help. He is
looking for his Ida Mae Smith b. 1910s supposely was in a Children's Home at
Ames, NY. Thanks for your help. Mary in SD email
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X-Message: #3
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 10:17:16 -0600 (CST)
From: (olivierBarbara Olivier)
Subject: Re: GEN-NEWBIE-D Digest V97 #86
Hello Dear Fellow WEBBERS!
Everyon Welcome to Live Chat! AT: DALNET #Genealogy-Help --Lots of
Special Guests!
Thanks
Barb/Turp
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X-Message: #4
Date: Wed, 05 Mar 1997 11:28:49 -0500
From:
Subject: JERVIS-HASLAM
After lurking for a couple of weeks, I've decided to put my first post out=
here and introduce myself.
I have just started researching my family tree, so I'm a total newbie at=
this. I've gotten as far as my great-great-grandfather and then "life"=
(the usual stuff) has prevented me from getting to the library again to=
research further.
I am researching the JERVIS and HASLAM surnames right now. And I've gotten=
to this point so far:
JERVIS, William John -- b. Dec 1849 Canada (Eng) - d. unknown. Wm. John had=
a wife named Mary (maiden name unknown) who was born Mar 1851 in Canada=
(Eng). They had 4 children as follows:
JERVIS, William John Jr. -- b. Apr 1873 New York - d. unknown
JERVIS, George A. -- b. Feb 1875 New York - d. unknown=20
JERVIS, Charles Henry -- b. May 10, 1880 New York - d. Abt Jul 1965 in=
Yonkers, NY. He married Ruth HASLAM and together they had 2 children.
HASLAM, Ruth -- b. Jan 2, 1889 New York - d. Aug 1978 New York. Ruth's=
parents are supposed to be German immigrants. I have looked once in the=
1900 Census for them, and didn'tfind them (I must've missed them).
JERVIS, John Bloomfield -- b. Dec 14, 1795 Huntingdon, NY - d. Jan 12, 1885=
Rome, NY. Parents were JERVIS (or JARVIS), Timothy and BLOOMFIELD, Pheobe=
(Phebe). John Bloomfield JERVIS was an American civil engineer who worked=
on the Erie Canal, and designed the Stourbridge Lion, the first working=
locomotive in the United States. He is the founder of Port Jervis, NY. I=
am hoping that someone out there has a biography on John Bloomfield JERVIS=
or a family tree on him. =20
Are any of these people in your family tree? Are you researching any of=
these family names? If so, please email me. I haven't been able to find=
even one person that's researching these surnames out on the web.
Thanks,
Debbie
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=A7 Currently researching the following families: =A7
=A7 <bold><color><param>8080,0000,8080</param>JERVIS &
HASLAM</color></bold> (Westchester County, NY) =A7
=A7 http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/plains/9803 =A7
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X-Message: #5
Date: Wed, 05 Mar 1997 10:08:37 +0000
From: Beth Sloan <>
Subject: Re: GEN-NEWBIE-D Digest V97 #86
At 10:17 AM 3/5/97 -0600, olivierBarbara Olivier wrote:
>Hello Dear Fellow WEBBERS!
>Everyon Welcome to Live Chat! AT: DALNET #Genealogy-Help --Lots of
>Special Guests!
>Thanks
>Barb/Turp
>
>Hi Barb,
I'm sorry but I do not understand DALNET#Genealogy-Help. How do we get
there? Does this take lots of experience with the computer? It sounds
interesting but I need more simple "how to do" instructions.
Beth Sloan
>
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X-Message: #6
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 10:22:20 -0800
From:
Subject: CHILDREN IN 1880 CENSUS
On Tue, 04 Mar 1997, Judy Oldziewski <> wrote:
>I was told that there is some kind of separate lising in the 1880
>census, I think it was for children under age 10.
Dear Judy,
What you probably heard was in reference to the soundex, the indexing system tha
began in 1880.
In the 1880 census, the only families that were included in the census, were
families that had a child or children under 10. So, if the folks you're looking
for in the 1880 census, weren't living in a household with children under 10,
they were not indexed and you will have to find them the old fashioned
way.....page by page.
Sorry the news isn't better.
Carolyn
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X-Message: #7
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 13:47:00 -0500 (EST)
From:
Subject: Re: GEN-NEWBIE-D Digest V97 #89
May many allergies
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X-Message: #8
Date: Wed, 05 Mar 1997 12:38:27 -0600
From: "David L. Schmutz" <>
Subject: URL's and Vital Records web address
I tried several of the addresses listed for vital records - none seemed
to work.
But by backtracking I was finally able to get it
http://www.medaccess.com/address/vital_toc.htm
to work for me.
Dave Schmutz
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X-Message: #9
Date: Wed, 05 Mar 1997 15:17:01 EST
From: (Lorretta A Curry)
Subject: Re: Genealogy Program
On Wed, 5 Mar 1997 03:12:22 -0500 (EST) writes:
>Hi,
> I can strongly recommend Brother's Keeper. It is extremely user
>friendly.
>I have not yet registered my copy, so I don't have a manual, but I've
>managed
>to stumble around just fine. Also, there is a List you can subscribe
>to, and
>the author of the program answers questions and considers upgrades
>according
>to what the users say. John Steed is his name. He's great!! Also, many
>BK
>users address your questions. It is tremendous assistance. You can
>download a
>free version of BK from the internet, to try out. I don't remember the
>URL so
>I'll give you the Brother's Keeper List address, and you can ask. It
>is
>. I LOVE this program!!!!!
>
well I have both PAF and Family Tree Maker Delexe II version 3.4
I really enjoy the family tree maker with the 4 extra cds of information
plus other stuff....it is alot easier than paf plus you can enter other
infomation like medical history,ect....>
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X-Message: #10
Date: Wed, 05 Mar 1997 15:26:20 -0500
From:
Subject: Re: DALNET #Genealogy-Help
Beth and fellow Gen-Newbies,
DALnet is an IRC (Internet Relay Chat) network. It's real time chat without=
the same screen refresh delays that chatting across WWW has. There are=
many different IRC networks out there, DALnet is one of the most popular=
ones.
It doesn't require alot of computer skills. It does require special IRC=
software which can be downloaded free from WWW. One of the most popular=
IRC software for PC users is 'mIRC' and it can be dowloaded from=
http://www.mirc.co.uk/
Once you install the software, it's just a matter of choosing DALnet from=
the connect menu and the software connects you. Once connected, you can=
type /join #Genealogy-help and once again, you will be connected to that=
channel (chat room).
For more information on IRC try the following sites:
Dalnet #newbies - The Ultimate IRC help channel
http://www.silcom.com/~bbain/newbies/
Dalnet IRC Homepage
http://www.dal.net
The mIRC Homepage
http://www.mirc.co.uk
For some IRC related links visit my IRC page at:
http://w3.one.net/~weya/irc.htm
I hope this helps. I look forward to seeing some of you in #Genealogy-help=
or #newbies or elsewhere on DALnet.
Debbie
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=20
</color>=A7
=A7 Currently researching the following families: =A7
=A7 <bold><color><param>8080,0000,8080</param>JERVIS &
HASLAM</color></bold> (Westchester County, NY) =A7
=A7 http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/plains/9803 =A7
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X-Message: #11
Date: Wed, 05 Mar 1997 15:49:06 -0500
From: "Sue B." <>
Subject: Software used be members
Hi all: Being a real newbie, can anyone give me information on
purchasing software? I have an old DOS version of F-edge and am
wondering if there are updates. I would like to know what you all
think. What is everyone using and how do you like it. Can the data I
have in the old F-edge be copied on to any new sofware or would it all
have to be done manually?
TIA
--
Sue B. in Fl.
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X-Message: #12
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 18:17:57 -0500 (EST)
From: patricia blevins <>
Subject: Unidentified subject!
Hi All,
I'm back! But, not full force yet. If I haven't answered you mail
please except my appology as I'm only answering mail that pertains to me.
Nothing wrong just pressed for time. Things aren't much better here
although we are told that the Ohio River will crest by morning at 14 feet
above flood stage. The other problem is our sewer systems are all antiques
and unable to handle all of this water. So what the rivers and streams
haven't flooded the sewer system has. Some phone, electric, cable and water
is off. Many, Many roads are closed. Hotels and motels are packed.
Shelters are filled and homes completely submerged. What isn't water logged
is muddy.
My husband's out in that boat again, helping the others, while I'm
here trying to keep things in tact. The water is in the houses a block from
me have water one foot deep now. May have to leave myself if this rain
keeps up. Don't worry I'll find somewhere to plug in my modem!!!!!!
Am I addicted yet?????
See Ya!
Pat
P.S.
I'll try to keep you posted as often as I can. Thank-you to all the
concerns and prayers, they have been greatly appreciated!!!!!!!
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X-Message: #13
Date: Wed, 05 Mar 1997 15:21:12 -0800
From: Dave Bardue <>
Subject: Re: Software used be members
Sue B. wrote:
>
> Being a real newbie, can anyone give me information on
> purchasing software? I have an old DOS version of F-edge and am
> wondering if there are updates.
Sue What's DOS? What's F-edge? Just kidding. But about DOS but never
heard of F-edge. I use Family Tree maker and like it for just about
everything but their hype.
Dave B
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X-Message: #14
Date: Wed, 05 Mar 97 17:28:07 PST
From: Edward Hall <>
Subject: Scanner
Okay, first I asked about printers (HP 693C won out...who's got the
winning number???)now my hubby has decided he wants a scanner. We're
talking something no more than $300, flatbed, bundled with OCR software.
I don't know much, if ANYTHING, about these gadgets. I'm lucky I know
where the "on" button is. Is 300x600 TRUE dpi pretty decent? We're
talking color, single-pass. I've seen one for $299, $269, $219 and one
for $199, but no software. I undertstand that you can fiddle with the
color resolution via software up to 4800 dpi. O/S is Win 3.11. Any
ideas???
Pam
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X-Message: #15
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 20:57:28 -0500 (EST)
From: (judith murphy)
Subject: Re: CHILDREN IN 1880 CENSUS
Carolyn -- since you knew about this maybe you could answer a question for
me on these 1880 census' -- the Univ. of Minnesota collected 1% of the
population/census and they compiled it; I used the thing and changed it so
readable, and could look things up, and there is an online link that also
does this so it is viewable online (a bit hard to maneuver but once you get
the hang of it I find it is wonderful). Now, is this that they did only 1%
of the entire USCensus, or was that only 1% of the entire microfilm? Well,
that doesn't sound right -- let me try again. Is the 1880 census of the
entire US population or only 1% of the population (the microfilm'd one)? Is
this 1% that UofMin did 1% of the microfilm'd one? or the entire microfilm
digitized? I can't seem to find the answer and haven't access to an 1880
microfilm to compare what I have for the county with what is on the microfilm.
If anyone knows this in the gen-newbie list I would appreciate knowing.
Thanks for your help,
Judy M.
>On Tue, 04 Mar 1997, Judy Oldziewski <> wrote:
>>I was told that there is some kind of separate lising in the 1880
>>census, I think it was for children under age 10.
>
>Dear Judy,
>What you probably heard was in reference to the soundex, the indexing
system tha
>began in 1880.
>In the 1880 census, the only families that were included in the census, were
>families that had a child or children under 10. So, if the folks you're
looking
>for in the 1880 census, weren't living in a household with children under 10,
>they were not indexed and you will have to find them the old fashioned
>way.....page by page.
>
>Sorry the news isn't better.
>Carolyn
>
>
>
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X-Message: #16
Date: Wed, 05 Mar 1997 21:53:37 -0500
From: Jim Moore <>
Subject: Re: Scanner
Pam wrote:
>
> Okay, first I asked about printers (HP 693C won out...who's got the
> winning number???)now my hubby has decided he wants a scanner. We're
> talking something no more than $300, flatbed, bundled with OCR software.
> I don't know much, if ANYTHING, about these gadgets. I'm lucky I know
> where the "on" button is. Is 300x600 TRUE dpi pretty decent? We're
> talking color, single-pass. I've seen one for $299, $269, $219 and one
> for $199, but no software. I undertstand that you can fiddle with the
> color resolution via software up to 4800 dpi. O/S is Win 3.11. Any
> ideas???
>
> Pam
Pam,
The March 4, 1997 issue of PC Magazine has a feature article on
scanners. Lot of basic info and a reveiw of several scanners. Read it
online at:
http://www.pcmag.com/features/scanners/
Other sites:
http://www.umax.com
http://www5.zdnet.com/cshopper/content/9611/cshp0009.html#4
http://hpcc998.external.hp.com:80/sj_infoweb/nfprodct.htm
I am considering the UMAX Vista-S12 with a street price of about $500.
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X-Message: #17
Date: Wed, 05 Mar 1997 17:13:40 -0500
From: "Robert B. Seymour" <bobcmo*>
Subject: Re: Subscribe (Search for biological parents)
wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I am trying to locate my father's birth certificate. I do not know the
> location of the birth, other than it was New York state. He was adopted when
> he was 7 years old and I am trying to trace the biological family. Any help
> would be greatly appreciated.
> Thanks.
I have not used it but there is a URL described as follows: The goal of
this connection to all types of adoption resources is helping children
discover their birth parents. But, whether this is your interest, or
you are an adoptive or prospective adoptive parent, you'll find
everything from adoption laws listed by state to where to look for birth
and death records."
http://www.olywa.net/bcrouch/adopt/htm
Good Luck,
Bob Seymour, Franklin County
North Carolina
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X-Message: #18
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 21:59:36 -0500 (EST)
From:
Subject: Re: Unidentified subject!
My prayers are with you and your family
Keep your modem dry.
God bless and sustain you.
Mark
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X-Message: #19
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 22:23:25 -0500 (EST)
From: (judith murphy)
Subject: Re: Software used be members
Sue,
Contact the company who made F-edge and ask them if there are any updates.
Usually when you start the program, or somewhere in documentation, readme,
help, etc. files it will have company name and you can usually locate
address and phone number from that. They can tell you whether or not they
have made any updates or if anyone has made any programs that works with
their product.
Judy M.
>Sue B. wrote:
>>
>> Being a real newbie, can anyone give me information on
>> purchasing software? I have an old DOS version of F-edge and am
>> wondering if there are updates.
>
>Sue What's DOS? What's F-edge? Just kidding. But about DOS but never
>heard of F-edge. I use Family Tree maker and like it for just about
>everything but their hype.
>Dave B
>
>
>
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X-Message: #20
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 23:06:39 -0500 (EST)
From:
Subject: Genealogy Programs
In regard to the different genealogy programs:
If you have DOS and no Windows program, I believe Personal Ancestral File
(PAF) is a good choice. It is still highly recommended for beginners. One
of the advantages with PAF is that there are users groups throughout the U.S.
that meet regularly to help you with PAF and with other genealogy related
problems. Also, many features are available with PAF because utility
programs have been written to add greater flexibility. I must admit that I
wish PAF could import pictures, but for storing and organizing my genealogy
data, and for ease of sharing it with other people, PAF is great.
Mary Lou Harline
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X-Message: #21
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 21:24:24 -0800
From:
Subject: 1880 Federal Census-Family Search
the Univ. of Minnesota collected 1% of the
population/census and they compiled it;
there is an online link that also
does this so it is viewable online (a bit hard to maneuver but once you get
the hang of it I find it is wonderful).
Now, is this that they did only 1%
of the entire USCensus, or was that only 1% of the entire microfilm?
Is the 1880 census of the
entire US population or only 1% of the population (the microfilm'd one)? Is
this 1% that UofMin did 1% of the microfilm'd one? or the entire microfilm
digitized?
Judy,
I am not familiar with the work done by the University of Minn, but I don't
really understand your question.
Let me add some exciting news about the 1880 census.
The Family Search Program on the LDS computers is the main search program. New
"chapters" are being added all the time. The newest project being digitized for
addition to Family Search is the 1880 US Federal Census!!!
That will surely help us all!
Carolyn
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X-Message: #22
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 22:09:55 -0800
From: Geri Kanner <>
Subject: Re: COE FAMILY
>
>>>I have the following: thought I would share
>>
>>Descendants of Robert Coe
>>
>>1. Robert Coe 1596-abt 1667
>>..+Mary abt 1600-1630
>>2.Robert Co 1626-abt 1659
>>..+Hannah Mitchell-1702
>>....Benjamin Coe 1626-1692
>>.....+Abigail Carman 1635-
>>3.Joseph Coe 1665
>>..+Judith 1669
>>4. Benjamin coe 1709-1800
>>..+Rachel Prudden 1718-1776
>>5.Benjamin Coe 1748-1833
>>..+Margaret Biegle 1857-1843
>>6.Margaret Coe 1757-1843
>>..+David Critchlow 1787-1828
>>(5) Philip Coe Sr. 1742-1818
>>..+Abigail O'Conner
>> (6) Philip Co Jr. 1784-1849
>> ..+Salome Ogle 1794-1827
>>7. Deliah Coe 1815-1852
>>..+William Cecil Jr. 1815-1847
>> 8.Elizabeth Cecil 1845-1925
>>` ..+ Charles M. McCraken 1833-1911
>> 9. Lee Philip McCraken 18?-1943
>> ..+ Lula Mary Wood 1888-1917
>> 10 Margaret Hannah McCraken 1914-1989
>> ..+Russell Leroy Thompson 1908-1971
>> 11. Dorothy Mac Thompson 1932-
>> ..+Richard Edward Cady 1932- **
>> 12 Richard Albert Cady 1956- **
>> ..+Nori Frasier
>>13. Eliot Russell Cady 1988-
>>13.Sara Hana Cady 1991-
>> (12) Danielle Gabrielle Gallisa
>>..+Anthony Aguilar
>>13. Erick Anthony Aguilar 1978-
>> 2nd Husband of Peggy Jane Cady
>>....+Amairy Jose Gallisa
>>13. Marrhew Gallisa 1990-
>>13. Erik Anthony Aguilar 1978-
>> (12) Michele Lynn Cady 1960-
>> (12) Steven Eric Cady 1969-
>> 13 mother Michele Hockstein.
>> (11).Kathyrn Lou Strannak 1932-
>> (11) Ethel leona Kinder 1936-
>> (11) Betty Jo Waychoff 1938-
>> (11) Nellie Marie Shirk 1940-
>> (11) Sahron Powers 1944-
>> (11) Debra Sue Spurlock 1950-
>>2.Robert Coe 1625-
>>3. Hon. John Coe 1757-
>>3.Robert Coe 1659-
>>3. Hannah Coe
>>3. Mary Coe
>>3. David Coe 1665-
>>3. Johanna Coe 1668-
>>3. Samuel Coe 1672-
>>..+Bethia
>> 4. Margaret Coe Skillman 1713-
>> 4. Sara Coe Woodward 1715-
>> 4. Samuel Coe 1718-1759
>>5.Samuel S. Coe 1738/39-
>>5. Deborah Coe Gurnee 1741-
>>5. Margaret Coe Dusenberrie 1743
>>5.Elizabeth Coe Armstrong 1745-
>>5.Isaac S.Coe 1746-
>>..+Rachel Archer
>>6. Samuel S. Coe 1813-1888
>>..+Mary Conklin
>>7. Samuel S. Coe ****
>>..+Louisa DeGroat
>>8.Mary Matilda Coe 1837-**** my ggp.
>>..+Theodore Ryerson
>9. Henry Martin Ryerson 1860-****
>> ..+Nettie Lounsbury
>>10. Theodore Leroy Ryerson 1888-191 4****
>>. ..Heneretta Oelkers
>>11. Richard Leroy Ryerson 1913-1963 ****
>>..+Helena Margaret O'Rielly 1915-1982
>>12.Maryjane Ryerson Melnyk 1937-
>13.Theresa Ann Melnyk
>..+ Keith Mc Peek
> 14. Jessica McPeek
> 14. Amanda Leigh McPeek
>>12.Lorraine Claudett Ryerson Brennan Moon 1944-
> 13. Tammy Elizabeth Brennan
> ..+ Paul Thompson
>14. Ashley Marie
> 13. John Richard Brennan
> ..+ Gina Bartalotta
>14. John Corey Brennan
>14. Kyle Richard Brennan
>>12 Geraldine Ryerson Levy Kanner 1947-
>..+1.Morris H.Levy 1947-1977
>13.Michael Richard Levy 1970-
>13. Helena Levy 1973-
>..+2 Sheldon(Shelly) D. Kanner 1945-
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Hope this can Help you
>>
>>Geraldine Ryerson Kanner
>>
>>I have some More on the McCraken's Unless you saw my Posting Last week
>>which I posted on the Coe List..
>>
>
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