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From: "Jo Rune Ugulen" <>
Subject: SV: SV: SV: The family of Magnús "berfætti Ólafs
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 15:29:27 +0200

Per Lilje <> wrote in message
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> With about the same logics, it can also be claimed that king Sverre was
> legally a king's son, no matter if his claim was physically justified or
> unjustified (without a DNA sample from Sigurd and from Sverre we can of
> course not scientifically prove that the claim was true/untrue, but
> probably, from what is known today, Sverre was not physically the son of
> Sigurd): Sverre won the war and killed his opponents, king Magnus
> Erlingsson, Magnus Skakke etc. The winner decided what was true or
> untrue. In those days I guess a loser had lost (and was dead, but might
> have got a nice burial speach from the winner), and nobody would (openly)
> hold the loser's view for the truth. Since also Sverre's decendants
> ruled Norway for the next 150 years and since what is true or untrue in
> such matters is decided by the ruler, the truth was that Sverre was the
> son of Sigurd [at least that was the truth in the period ca.
> 1200-1350].

Wrong. Sverre did never do anything to prove that he was the son of a king,
other than claiming it. Your argumentation can not be used. If that was the
case, then any conqueror of any territory should be regarded as a
son/descendant of the previous rulers of the conquered territory. That
obviously won't work:-) Legally Sverre was king of Norway, but he can never
legally be acknowledged as a son of Sigurd Munn - just because he did not
prove it by the laws that were in function then.

regards
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