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From: Pat Galovich <>
Subject: Re: DAVID RICHARDSON b. 1819 and family
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 22:38:12 -0800
References: <200303190500.h2J50Amh018745@lists5.rootsweb.com>


Hi Jimmy: Many thanks for your response. Yes, the 2 references you quote are in fact, mine! I belong to the Isle-of-Man.com mailing list, as well as several "Manx Bulletin Boards". I do appreciate
your efforts however.

Your reference to the New York Genealogical & Biographical Society site is most appreciated, and very interesting - I've had a quick look and am particularly intrigued with the "ProQuest Database"
link. I will spend some time tomorrow investigating the whole site.

Unfortunately, I am unable to give you any more info re David's death. I only know he died in the year 1871. This info was obtained from the Handbook of Texas site and when I emailed them for further
particulars, was not lucky enough to receive any reply.

Also, many thanks for referring my query to your friend. I will be most pleased to hear back from you should she come up with anything on my behalf.

Kind regards,
Pat
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> In looking for your David Richardson, I found a site, that i can't get into,
> but that you may already know about, and may want to try loooking into,
> etc...
> It does seem to show that David married Jennie in 1857. See below. If he
> married jennie here in NYC in 1857, it would be pretty tough to find any
> info. I tear through the NYC Municple Archives as often as possible, and
> there are NO vitals priior to 1866. I myself have been trying to find a
> marriage in NYC in 1858 to no avail. If can give me an approximate date of
> death in 1871, them perhaps, the next time I go to the muni-archives, I
> could look up David's death Certificate and copy the information and send it
> to you. Please let me know.
>
> Also, I sent your info to a friend who is heavily involved in researching
> Galveston, Texas, and asked if she might come up with something for you.
> At this point you are no doubt aware that a big tidal wave, gave that town a
> "rinse in speed cycle", and left no "residue"! There isn't much in the way
> of info from that place anymore, but if I get anything back, I'll send it to
> you.
>
> At any rate, may I suggest the New York Genealogical & Biographical Society,
> for ANY reseach in New York State, including NYC. It is a very old and
> prestigious private memebership organization, and "the best"! I think
> membership is about $35.00, and they do research for their out of town (NYC)
> members. They also have an annual genealogyfield trip to NYC for their
> members. Their website is at: http://www.nygbs.org/
>
> Happy Hunting
> Jimmy Ogilvie
>
> David RICHARDSON m. Eliza OATES
> ... 1839 to Eliz Oates, who was b. 1821 Douglas, IOM. ... 1857 to "Jennie",
> 20 years his junior
> (b. abt ... (Eliza and the 2 children are recorded on the 1861 Douglas
> Census ...
> www.isle-of-man.com/cgi-bin/interests/genealogy/
> nama/bulletin/index.pl?read=882 - 7k - Cached - Similar pages
>
> DAVID RICHARDSON
> ... David RICHARDSON b. 1819 England and married on the IOM to Eliza Oates
> who was born ... He
> and Eliza separated and David married a second time to "Jennie" abt. ...
> www.isle-of-man.com/cgi-bin/interests/genealogy/
> nama/bulletin/index.pl?read=1146 - 6k - Cached - Similar pages
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pat Galovich" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 11:22 PM
> Subject: DAVID RICHARDSON b. 1819 and family
>
> > I'm trying to locate further details about the following family (David
> > and Eliza were my 2nd grt grandparents). ANYTHING at all would be
> > most appreciated, but I'm particularly keen to know exactly when and
> > where in New York David died. Also, when did he and Eliza divorce,
> > and when & where did he marry Jennie; also any info about the
> > children's marriages, etc.
> >
> > David RICHARDSON b. abt. 1819 'England' (according to 1850 and 1860
> > Galveston, TX censuses), and m. abt. 1839 in England to (1) Eliza
> > Oates b. 1822 on the Isle of Man, and m. abt. 1857-58 to (2) Jennie
> > Unknown b. abt. 1859 in 'Scotland'.
> >
> > David and Eliza had 8 children:-
> >
> > Sophia J. b. 1839 England (1850 Galveston Census)
> > Annie b. 1841 England (1850 Galveston Census)
> > David b. 1843 England OR Texas - *see below
> > Louisa b. 1844 England OR Texas - *see below
> > Eliza b. 1847 Douglas, Isle of Man (1850 Galveston Census)
> > Frederick b. 1848 Louisana, USA (1850 Galveston Census)
> > Mary b. 1855 Galveston, TX (1860 Galveston Census) (my great
> > grandmother)
> > George b. 1856 USA (1860 Galveston Census)
> >
> > *The 1850 Galveston Census indicates these 2 were born in England,
> > however, the 1860 Galveston Census records their place of birth as
> > Texas! I'm leaning towards England, but would love to have this
> > clarified.
> >
> > David and family emigrated to US in 1848 and in 1850 he was
> > co-partner/editor/publisher of the Galveston Daily News, and he spent
> > most of his life with this newspaper. He died in New York City in
> > 1871. (source: Handbook of Texas)
> >
> > All resources available to me to date have been exhausted and any
> > assistance and/or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Pat
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> Subject: This morning My messages got deleted
> Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 06:16:03 -0800 (PST)
> From: barbara jeffries <>
> To:
>
> Somehow all of my messages this morning got deleted,
> so if anyone out there wrote to me I didn't get to
> read it.
> Barbara
>
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> Subject: Re: MASSEY - PURTELL - McDOUGAL
> Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 09:49:46 -0600
> From: "Dan Massey" <>
> To:
>
> I post this message in hope of contacting a relative of one of the persons I describe below. Since I have not found anyone in Ontario I thought some of them may have moved to NY state or elsewhere.
> I am not asking anyone to do my work. I am just looking for relatives of these families.
> In the late 1800s they may have left Ontario.
>
> My father Thomas Patrick MASSEY was b in 1882 Almonte Ontario Canada. That
> is what he said. I can find no record of him or his family.
>
> This is what he told me about 40 years ago:
>
> His father Thomas William MASSEY last known to have lived in Almonte
> about 1880 - 1900.
> His mother Ellen PURTELE (PURTELL - PURTILL)?
> His brothers Fred - William - Albert - Walter - Herbert
> sisters Louise - Florence
>
> No dates - no second names - no religion - no place.
>
> My father died in 1975 and recently I got his death registration and it
> states:
> He was b Ontario, Canada
> His father Thomas MASSEY b Ireland
> His mother Helen McDOUGAL b Ontario
>
> I think his mother died when he was quite young and he left home at an early
> age. It seems to me that his father remarried unknown to him as there was
> no family contact after he left except for a picture of him and his brother
> Walter taken at a Studio in Winnipeg Manitoba Canada about 1905. Walter was
> leaving for Australia while working on an ocean vessel where he planned to
> stay.
> Herbert was thought to be working on a Great Lake Vessel
>
> I have searched the BMD of Ontario with no success. I have history books of
> Masseys and made notes of the Massey Machinery CO Masseys back to Geofrey.
> The books I have are of Daniel MASSEY and Angeline HAYNES before 1806.
>
> I believe the only way I will ever find anything is to find descendants of
> the uncles I mentioned above. There must be someone who can relate to them.
>
> I am also aware that they could have moved somewhere between Ontario and
> Qubec in Canada to New York state and Vermont.
>
> I have done a lot of searching and spent a fair amount. I hope that some
> Massey sees this and recognizes someone.
>
> Thanks for reading this far.
>
> Daniel Patrick MASSEY
> Manitoba Canada
>
>
>
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> Subject: Peter J. COLEMAN b 1860 Ireland settled Queens NY
> Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 16:10:48 EST
> From:
> To:
>
> Looking for information/connection Peter J. COLEMAN b 1860 Ireland m Mary
> (COLEMAN) b 1855 Ireland. They lived in the Queens area of NY. Had the
> following children Peter J. Jr. b 1895 , Francis B. 1899 and Edward A. 1903.
> Peter Jr. owned automobile shop and Edward A. was a lawyer.
>
> Walton J. Sullivan at
> Maternal: COLEMAN, BELL, BRESLIN, BUCKLEY, CLARKE, CORBETT, CURRAN, CUSICK,
> FINNERTY, FLYNN, GALLAGHER, GILLIEN, GILLISPIE, GRAY, HANRAHAN, HOBAN,
> HOGAN, HORAN, KNIGHT, MELVIN, MC HUGH, MC SHANE, RITTER, SCHUSTER, SCOTT,
> STANTON, SULLIVAN, TOUGHER, TOOER, TORGERSON, TRAYNOR, WADE, WAGNER, WALSH,
> WEBER


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